Flash vs Thanos [CIS off]

Started by golem3708 pages

turns Flash to stone

Does Anti Monitor have shields? Just asking.

Not that I know of. Someone who's more au fait with him can say.

I still think speed steals a valid tactic. Sure, Thanos has quick reactions, I'm not lowballing, and sure, he has control over his molecules.....but at this point, asking if Flash has done it to someone like Thanos is like me asking if anyone like Flash has attempted to steal his kinetic energy.

I just want to point out though, with Amazo, Amazo was fast enough to blitz Flash, AND was stacking powers. And Flash still managed to out react him, and steal his speed.

Again, I'm not making out that Thanos is like Rhino or Juggernaut level in speed, just because he is pictured as a massive bulky character. My point is that someone who was fast enough to keep up and best Flash, was still unable to react to an instantaneous speed steal.

So even if Thanos has all this control over his molecules, he still needs time to react to it. Which he wouldn't get.

Yeah. Chars will have access to their full abilities. Isn't that one of the rules?

BTW Didn't Wally state he could steal Superman's speed?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yeah. Chars will have access to their full abilities. Isn't that one of the rules?

BTW Didn't Wally state he could steal Superman's speed?

Yup, and didn't want to because it would be like throwing himout of aspeeding car.

Jay did it to Supes though, and stated that he wasn't as good as Wally.

I think that the best question here is... Does speed trump all? Even if Wally, Jay or Bart... etc were to be too fast, would they be able to hurt Thanos to the point of a KO? can the Flash beat Darkseid by himself? If so why have any other member of the JL on the team? Flash would be a one man gang if he could take most threats out there all by himself. I'm not knocking the Flash, he's a very good character, and I can't wait for the show to air, but honestly, he hardly ever fights to the level suggested by some in this thread. No offense BTW.

Even though I'm the only one to have posted scans showing he fights to that level 🙁

Originally posted by Stoic
I think that the best question here is... Does speed trump all? Even if Wally, Jay or Bart... etc were to be too fast, would they be able to hurt Thanos to the point of a KO? cant the Flash beat Darkseid by himself? If so why have any other member of the JL on the team? Flash would be a one man gang if he could take most threats out there all by himself. I'm not knocking the Flash, he's a very good character, and I can't wait for the show to air, but honestly, he hardly ever fights to the level suggested by some in this thread. No offense BTW.
Can the flash beat DS by himself? If he were to operate at his best and use all the shit he has been shown to be capable of doing without PIS/CIS? You bet your ass he would beat DS. Problem is it doesn't sell comics. It is quite simple IMHO. And the Flash in this thread is not fighting IC. He has CIS off. He will get general knowledge of how dangerous and powerful Thanos is. He will use his bag of tricks.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even though I'm the only one to have posted scans showing he fights to that level 🙁

I said no offense brother. So don't take offense you wanker. 😠 😄

Originally posted by Stoic
I said no offense brother. So don't take offense you wanker. 😠 😄

Phuck you for questioning my viewpoints. And for not agreeing blindly to my arguments.

LOL

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Phuck you for questioning my viewpoints. And for not agreeing blindly to my arguments.

I kind of do agree with you, but I just don't know why the Flash doesn't usually fight people the way that forum Flash does. I mean there is the money thing, but still, he would still be shown as the most powerful Hero on DC Earth. Nu DC Cheetah is a prime example. I can't see her as being more than just a joke to Thanos. I guess my mind has a tough time losing the comparative thinking thing.

Its because speed and intelligence are two extremely difficult things to opull off in a comic book battle, IMO. Hence the opposite problem,that of comic Batman and Reed winning with prep but dforum Bats and Reed don't.

hmm, this thread's ticking along nicely.

Can "auto-shields" react faster than Flash and does Flash have the strength to hurt Thanos?

Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight

Thought you didn't allow prep, OP?

No prep means no pre-planned counter-measures or devices. No tech that isn't part of the character's regular kit.

Thanos gets basic knowledge of Flash but he has no prep to build defences/counter-measures of any kind.

SpeedForce dumping counts as a draw as it would be BFR, in effect.

But also no auto shields etc..no defensive abilities, IOW.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But also no auto shields etc..no defensive abilities, IOW.

Thanos has auto-shields as part of his regular kit. We've seen it deployed on occasion.

The questions, for me are: a) could it activate before Flash can hit Thanos (imo, no), b) would it be able to keep Flash out, c) would Flash be able to hurt Thanos if he could get through and d) does Thanos have a counter for Flash's obvious speed advantage?

Originally posted by krisblaze
^If you don't know what CIS off means, read up on the rules.

I'll elaborate:

They get basic knowledge of the opposition.

CIS off means they're doing anything to win, even if it's out of character.

Obviously Thanos knows that he's fighting against a speedster, and obviously he'll use tactics that go well against speedsters...

How would he even get an opportunity to use a single tactic? Flash can hit with a superman level punch before any neuron fires in his brain. Flash can steal his speed before any neuron fires in his brain. Flash can vibrate intangible and phase through any physical attack. Flash can bfr Thanos into the speed force.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My conclusion is based off of Thanos feats which are more than adequate for the task at hand.

That wasnt directed at you, but okay. 😛

Originally posted by tkitna
Does Anti Monitor have shields? Just asking.

Not sure.
I do know Thanos doesnt have a shell and an energy form. 😉