War on ISIS

Started by Robtard55 pages

Ah, gotcha

Originally posted by Bardock42
I mean I guess the really sad thing is that all the actions of the US military in Iraq in the last 10+ years were all for naught, if not a net negative.

Perhaps inaction is the better way.

Invading Iraq and removing Saddam was a mistake no doubt. Especially since the reason for doing it was based on a lie we were told. Doubtful ISIS would've risen up with Saddam still ruling the country. But that doesn't mean we should compound the error by just looking the other way when a multitude of innocent people are being beheaded, burned alive, and even buried alive.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you referring to China rebuilding Iraq/Iraqi infrastructure? Cos **** that, they're ****ing degenerates, just look at what they're doing in DR Congo and other parts of central and sub-Saharan Africa
Could you extrapolate on this? My curiosity is piqued.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Could you extrapolate on this? My curiosity is piqued.

Oh yes, I would love to extrapolate for you, sir: China routinely bribes African officials for oil and mineral rights in say the DR Congo in exchange for China building roads/infrastructure and this is sold to the local Congolese people as "you'll have jobs, earn fair wages and your country will grow into the 21st century (they're still in the 19th in some parts)"

But in reality, China doesn't typically hire from the local laborer market (ie Africans) and give back to the local communities, instead they ship in thousands of Chinese workers (which they pay poorly) and set up mini "Chinatowns" to do the road/infrastructure building and the vast majority of roads, rest-stations, fuel depots etc lead to nowhere. Adding some background: In the DR Congo, getting from say Kinshasa to another major city like Lumbumbashi can be next to impossible unless you have a plane, heavy duty vehicle or want to walk for 2-4 weeks

In short: Corrupt African officials get rich, China gains extremely valuable oil/mineral rights while giving virtually nothing back, Africa gets raped and the local Africans get a lubeless fist up the ass

edit: China isn't the only one either, Russia, India and S. Korea have similar hands in as well, China is just the most aggressive rapist

Here's an example in Angola, which happens to be China's largest African supplier of crude oil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilamba

Rob if ISIS hits US, what tune will you be singing then?

C#

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Rob if ISIS hits US, what tune will you be singing then?
Originally posted by Mindset
C#

😂

You both have poopy diapers, Omega needs to come change them.

Originally posted by Robtard
Russia ... and S. Korea have similar hands in as well

Out of pure curiosity, source?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You both have poopy diapers, Omega needs to come change them.
But to answer your question: America isn't immune to terrorist attacks, both from internal and external sources. So if some whacky ISIS funded guys shoot up a mall or blow up a post office, it will be extremely terrible, but it won't change much.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Out of pure curiosity, source?

Been 3ish years now, let me see what I can find

Originally posted by Robtard
Been 3ish years now, let me see what I can find

👆

Here's an older article: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21639554-china-has-become-big-africa-now-backlash-one-among-many

More recent one about trade: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21574012-chinese-trade-africa-keeps-growing-fears-neocolonialism-are-overdone-more

Doesn't list Korea or Russia though in that one

Originally posted by Robtard
Here's an older article: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21639554-china-has-become-big-africa-now-backlash-one-among-many

More recent one about trade: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21574012-chinese-trade-africa-keeps-growing-fears-neocolonialism-are-overdone-more

Doesn't list Korea or Russia though in that one

Thank you 👆

I asked because I haven't read about "anyone" besides China and India 🙂

Lots of countries have their grubby little hands in Africa, one of the (if not the main) reasons why the powers that be like to keep Africa a divided war-torn shithole. Africa's one of the richest in resource places on the planet, oil, metals, timber, precious gems and minerals abound; a united Africa would be far harder to plunder, let a lone a potential global powerhouse

Originally posted by Robtard
Lots of countries have their grubby little hands in Africa, one of the (if not the main) reasons why the powers that be like to keep Africa a divided war-torn shithole. Africa's one of the richest in resource places on the planet, oil, metals, timber, precious gems and minerals abound; a united Africa would be far harder to plunder, let a lone a potential global powerhouse

Let's be real here. Africa is so screwed up that at this point no one has to help them tear themselves apart. Africa isn't disorganized because of colonialism, before colonialism (but for a few exceptions like Ethiopia) there simply weren't nations to speak of.

Yeah, you're probably right there and I can't say in regards to the "what if Africa was never colonized", but the British, French and Dutch (to name a few) didn't help to promote a united Africa, at least not one with their best interest in mind

Yeah, whatever, racist

So...uh this means China shouldn't try to get involved in the Middle East or what?

It's TI's fault we got off topic, so blame him