Sidious and Vitiate vs Caedus, Plageuis, and Bane (Force fight)

Originally posted by NewGuy01
They actually did support LeGenD most of the time until (relatively) recently. Something has changed. :no2:

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Originally posted by AncientPower
Because I don't want to debate this a third time, i will just point out to the culmination of an argument between a SWTOR user and LeGenD, in which LeGenD lost:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=6603433&postcount=414

All of that Caedus did without a nexus and with minimal prep, almost everything Vitiate has done has been with prep and/or a nexus and/or a ritual.

Caedus needs to be recognized for being absolutely a power house in his own right, but as usual he gets over looked, just like Krayt.

Don't waist your time with Sinious. I've already exposed him of his bias, and he's as bad as LeGenD. In another thread he told me he doesn't use Vitiate's off-screen or prep feats in mid-combat, then when he has nothing else to cling to, those are the feats he harps on.

Just leave it.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
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Don't waist your time with Sinious. I've already exposed him of his bias, and he's as bad as LeGenD. In another thread he told me he doesn't use Vitiate's off-screen or prep feats in mid-combat, then when he has nothing else to cling to, those are the feats he harps on.

Just leave it.

Again, you exposed only how stupid you are.

You ignore legit posts and feats when you're out of answers and then pretend that you've proven something about the character you so childishly underrate. Great job buddy. 🙄

Even Marka Ragnos purportedly possessed a greater range of capabilities than Caedus: just from what we've seen.

Vitiate was a scholar, and employed a far greater intuitive depth of arcane and ritualistic practices than Marka Ragnos, the Nightsisters, and even Plagueis and Sidious. Vitiate was capable of warping the space time continuum like DE Sidious, capable of corrupting life on a galactic scale like Plagueis - he was more prodigious in all ethereal abilities than any other Sith; and he absorbed as much energy as the anomalous Darth Nihilus in his time.

Sidious, Anakin Solo, Plageuis, and Bane were all prodigies of ethereal elements of the Force in their own way (although Sidious not so much if you exclude DE in which he had to become insane in order to get these ethereal powers down after his death). Sidious was by far the greatest of all these Sith Lords in that he was more cunning, and clever - and in combat his powers were far more applicable than were those of Caedus or Vitiate; plus his deductive genius would have made him more than capable of slaying Vitiate one on one.

Sidious would most likely be defeated by either Bane or Plagueis due to their styles of combat, especially Plagueis as he was slightly more powerful in the Force. Although he'd defeat the likes of Zannah who stalemated Bane, it's a bit more complicated than ABC logic.

Sidious would defeat Vader by a hair's breadth, Mace Windu was more than a threat for him although he'd defeat Windu more than not - and Yoda's chances for victory against Sidious is surprisingly slim. More surprising is that Yoda'd defeat Plagueis more than not.

I'd hate to admit bias to my set but Maulkiller'd potentially be the most dominant combatant in the mythos overall. Although there're many who'd win most rounds against him due to their specific styles; none come to mind actually.

Originally posted by Oneness
In an all-out fight Vititiate would lose to fricken RotS Anakin.

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Originally posted by Oneness
But in a raw Force battle Nihilus is worth one hundred Yodas,

Originally posted by Oneness
and Vitiate is even more powerful.

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Skills is such a party pooper.

Originally posted by Sinious
Skills is such a party pooper.

It's a matter of where they're applicable and where they're not applicable.

One can't apply the ability to scrape up a planet's crust to direct combat because Sidious would die as well...

One can't apply an uncontrolled and untamed amount of telekinesis, Force lightning, mind control, and precognition to a battle here and now as well as someone who has these powers, albeit to a lesser degree, perfectly honed and at the battle-ready.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Originally posted by Oneness
All of them have skills.

It's a matter of where they're applicable and where they're not applicable.

One can't apply the ability to scrape up a planet's crust to direct combat because Sidious would die as well...

One can't apply an uncontrollable and untamed amount telekinesis, shadow clones, Force lightning, an immense ability to enslave minds and see into the future to a battle here and now as opposed to someone who has these powers to a lesser degree perfectly honed and at the battle-ready.

I was talking about SupremeSkillz 🙂

Originally posted by Sinious
I was talking about SupremeSkillz 🙂

That's what you get when you cross someone who's undergone the most intense level of combat training in the mythos, been cut in half at the torso, and electrocuted half to death with someone else who's undergone just as thorough a regimen, been impaled at the torso, and electrocuted to death.

Vitiate could amp Maulkiller, and provide telepathic and elemental support the likes of which has never been seen, to an unbeatable combat level if they were a duo.

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Dude I was talking about the member who just posted under you whose name is XSUPREMEXSKILLZ.

Originally posted by Sinious
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Dude I was talking about the member who just posted under you whose name is XSUPREMEXSKILLZ.

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Originally posted by AncientPower
Because I don't want to debate this a third time, i will just point out to the culmination of an argument between a SWTOR user and LeGenD, in which LeGenD lost:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=6603433&postcount=414

All of that Caedus did without a nexus and with minimal prep, almost everything Vitiate has done has been with prep and/or a nexus and/or a ritual.

Caedus needs to be recognized for being absolutely a power house in his own right, but as usual he gets over looked, just like Krayt.

I have created a detailed profile about Emperor Vitiate here: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/s_w_legend/blog/

After the aforementioned effort, I leave the analysis part on other members.

My observation is that fellow member Beniboybling overlooks some aspects/information about Emperor Vitiate in his comparative analysis of the characters. He might have some explanation for his selectivity but it leaves room for arguments.

Originally posted by AncientPower
What I more meant was that even LeGenD(who seems to be the resident TOR expert) couldn't put Vitiate over Caedus in a genuine well rounded debate.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Call me lazy but I'm tired of arguing who is most powerful in 'x'.

I, honestly, don't care about rankings in Star Wars anymore. Whether Emperor Vitiate ranks # 1 or # 5, I don't care. However, I continue to believe that Emperor Vitiate is among the TOP TIER heavy-weights of the mythos and this belief is endorsed in Legends continuity officially, and that he is capable of defeating any Jedi or Sith under right circumstances (hopefully, people won't have an issue with "right circumstances" point at-least). But a consensus on "rankings" aspect of Star Wars is highly unlikely realistically due to difference of opinions among fans of the mythos.

I feel inclined to employ my real-life maturity in the discussions about Star Wars as well, lesson learned from past experiences. I don't want people hating me/harbor grudge against me for my views about fictional topics that have no value in life. Peace.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Because I don't want to debate this a third time, i will just point out to the culmination of an argument between a SWTOR user and LeGenD, in which LeGenD lost:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=6603433&postcount=414

All of that Caedus did without a nexus and with minimal prep, almost everything Vitiate has done has been with prep and/or a nexus and/or a ritual.

Caedus needs to be recognized for being absolutely a power house in his own right, but as usual he gets over looked, just like Krayt.

We warned you. You were playing with powers beyond your comprehension and we warned you.

Where before he was but lurking, thou hast re-summoned him unto this plane and there will be death. There will be consequences.

You will pay for this.

Oh so now its a force fight? Team 1 with less difficulty then.

It always was a force fight.

Seriously?

Either no one told me, or no one knew. 😕

It's in the title..... ._.

Originally posted by Oneness
Even Marka Ragnos purportedly possessed a greater range of capabilities than Caedus: just from what we've seen.

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