Originally posted by Silent Master
You can't grant Slade durability he hasn't shown, so until you can show him taking a hit with equal/better damage output than the energy weapon Cap took, Cap's durability is better.
I think you need to actually watch the series instead of youtube clips to form a real opinion.
Originally posted by wallman77
gotta go with cap. just too impressive. also constantly goes toe to toe with super humans. much more experience in the mater than slade who is just used to walloping on brooding arrow or fodder.
Slade was a fighter/mercenary long before he had the mirakuru, so he's had multiple experience fighting foes on equal footing. Cap only ever fought 2 opponents who were in the same physical class as him, and both times he has struggled.
Originally posted by wallman77
struggled...and won?
Yup. That's not the point I was trying to make though. I was just trying to point out that you can't say Cap has more experience because Slade has actually fought more opponents on equal footing than Cap has and has sometimes dominated them, whereas Cap has never dominated a foe with similar physical prowess as he does.
Originally posted by Lestov16
IDK if his final fight with WS would count as a "win".....
I wouldn't call it a fight. Cap defended himself long enough to save the world. Then he refused to fight WS. It was clear Cap had the upper hand and could have handidly dispatched WS.
Deathstroke has no feats against anyone superhuman. Cap does.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yup. That's not the point I was trying to make though. I was just trying to point out that you can't say Cap has more experience because Slade has actually fought more opponents on equal footing than Cap has and has sometimes dominated them, whereas Cap has never dominated a foe with similar physical prowess as he does.
Mirakuru Slade has no feats against someone on his level of physical prowess.
Regular Slade only dominated the unskilled, stupid soldiers. Reg Slade got owned by Arrow, someone on his level of physical prowess.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Mirakuru Slade has no feats against someone on his level of physical prowess.Regular Slade only dominated the unskilled, stupid soldiers. Reg Slade got owned by Arrow, someone on his level of physical prowess.
It's posts like these that make me question whether you've really watched Arrow or are simply going off youtube clips and hearsay.
When injected with the anti-mirakuru cure, the subject is left severely weakened and disoriented for quite some time. Roy took hours before he could recover after taking in the cure. The mirakuru soldiers were getting knocked out on the spot after getting hit by the cure.
Oliver fought Slade right after he was injected with the cure, so that was a severely weakened Slade that Oliver fought, definitely not a fight on "equal grounds". I'm surprised Slade was able to fight at all. And despite all that, Oliver didn't "own" Slade in their fight. It was still a pretty close fight.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Mirakuru Slade has no feats against someone on his level of physical prowess.Regular Slade only dominated the unskilled, stupid soldiers. Reg Slade got owned by Arrow, someone on his level of physical prowess.
Originally posted by Firefly218
The fact remains, Mirakuru Slade has no feats against someone on his physical level. Captain America does.
so true..
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's posts like these that make me question whether you've really watched Arrow or are simply going off youtube clips and hearsay.
I have watched Arrow since the very first episode and looking forward to season 3 starting next wednesday...
Cap wins
Originally posted by Firefly218
The fact remains, Mirakuru Slade has no feats against someone on his physical level. Captain America does.
Cap has feats going up against superpowered individuals on his same level, but that's just 2 opponents. Slade may not have feats going up against superpowered opponents but he's had multiple experience fighting opponents at his same physical level. Kinda evens it out.
To be honest, this is getting too nitpicky. I doubt this fight will be won by arguing who has more experience, as both combatants have sufficient experience to be dangerous. And both of them seem to be able to adjust to the situation and opponent as it comes up.
I kinda feel like this "experience" category was brought up because people were dodging the fact that Slade has better durability feats than Cap.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so true..I have watched Arrow since the very first episode and looking forward to season 3 starting next wednesday...
Cap wins
I have no problem with people thinking Cap wins. It's the people who keep insisting that Cap is more durable/stronger or that Cap can stomp all over Slade that I have trouble with.
Originally posted by Firefly218
The fact remains, Mirakuru Slade has no feats against someone on his physical level. Captain America does.
So what? Why does he need to fight someone on his own level to prove he can beat somebody on a lower level? Slade's strength/speed/durability feats outrank Cap, therefore he is better. /story