Originally posted by FrothByte
Cap has feats going up against superpowered individuals on his same level, but that's just 2 opponents. Slade may not have feats going up against superpowered opponents but he's had multiple experience fighting opponents at his same physical level. Kinda evens it out.To be honest, this is getting too nitpicky. I doubt this fight will be won by arguing who has more experience, as both combatants have sufficient experience to be dangerous. And both of them seem to be able to adjust to the situation and opponent as it comes up.
I kinda feel like this "experience" category was brought up because people were dodging the fact that Slade has better durability feats than Cap.
Who has Slade fought that's on his same level? There was that one guy wearing a similar mask on the island I think...
You still haven't answered the questions of speed, skill/technique, sanity/intelligence, agility etc... Those are critical factors to consider.
Cap doesn't stomp Slade, but he wins handidly. Cap's speed and skill >>>>> Slade's. IMO, Cap has equal if not better durability. Cap has roughly equal strength.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Who has Slade fought that's on his same level? There was that one guy wearing a similar mask on the island I think...You still haven't answered the questions of speed, skill/technique, sanity/intelligence, agility etc... Those are critical factors to consider.
Cap doesn't stomp Slade, but he wins handidly. Cap's speed and skill >>>>> Slade's. IMO, Cap has equal if not better durability. Cap has roughly equal strength.
Normal human Slade has decimated other normal human soldiers... multiple times through the series. Mirakuru Slade also completely dominated mirakuru Roy. Normal human Steve Rogers never even fought and defeated any other normal human before. Superpowered Stever Rogers also never dominated another superpowered being.
As for the questions of skill, speed, technique... are you blind or something? I've answered them like 3 times already in this thread. But I'll write it down once more for you:
Skill/technique - I give a slight edge to Cap. Cap definitely has fancier technique, but that doesn't always equate to better. The reason I give him the edge is due to him taking down that quinjet. That was just awesome and showed some crazy agility and skill. That said, Slade was already great fighter even before his mirakuru upgrade. Cap might have better skill but it's by no means a large margin.
Speed - assuming we're talking about combat speed, I'd say it's equal. There's really nothing that Cap or Slade did that gives us a clear indication of how fast they are. Batroc was able to keep up with Cap for a short time, Oliver was able to keep up with Slade for an even shorter time... so I don't think they're that much faster than the elite fighting human.
As for Sanity/intelligence - Slade on the island was batshit crazy. Good thing it's not that Slade that's fighting here. Slade near the end of Arrow had his sanity under control. So this is a non-factor.
So Cap edges out Slade a bit in skill and by a bigger margin in agility. Speed is equal. Slade edges out Cap a bit in strength but by quite a bigger margin in durability. I'm putting the win in Slade's favor because his advantage in durability trumps Cap's advantage in agility as for what I can see.
Originally posted by Lestov16
You seeing something hasn't stopped you from misjudging matches before. You are hardly objective.
that coming from someone like you. hahahahahahaha.. i will be objective when i want to be, got a problem with it, i don;t care..
Originally posted by FrothByte
I have no problem with people thinking Cap wins. It's the people who keep insisting that Cap is more durable/stronger or that Cap can stomp all over Slade that I have trouble with.
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Wanted to point out that Slade has, in fact, been hit with energy weapons before. When he raided STAR Labs i think, the scientists hit him with some big energy gun. The effect was similar to Cap getting hit by the chitauri blast. It knocked him off his feet and is really the only thing that was shown to hurt Slade, but he got right back up on his feet afterwards.
In terms of speed, the soldiers were able to outrun modern cars. (only remember Cap outrunning the 1920s car).
In terms of strength, they shoved cars pretty easily.
Originally posted by marwash22
Their bodies weren't registering the pain... how you can sit here and claim that bullets are greater than energy blast that blow up cars and knock Iron Man on his ass is absurdity.
Where in the show is it stated that mirakuru enables the person not to feel pain.
As for the energy blast, you do realize that bullets do indeed have a huge amount of force behind them right? But due to size, shape and material they instead penetrate.
Besides, you're still dodging the fact that Cap was seriously hurt by gunshots whereas the Mirakuru boys aren't.
And that Chitauri blast you're talking about? A grazing hit also seriously hurt Cap. Let's not pretend that he tanked it.