Vitiate vs Orbalisk Bane

Started by Sinious6 pages
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Look, I think Tempest is an awful father too, but he already posted the quotes.

Those quotes doesn't specifically expose the function of nexus in Sion's talent though.

Originally posted by appletonia
First one: the quote reads a lot better if you interpet it as Kreia, the profoundly gifted seer and master schemer, meaning that the time that Meetra would, not could, defeat Sion was not now but later. It's a recurring theme throughout the game that Kreia knew a lot more than she lets on, and was grooming the Exile to be the one to defeat her enemies. In other words, rather than saying that Meetra couldn't defeat Sion because they were on Korriban, she's saying that she couldn't defeat him because she knew that now was not ultimately the right time for events to be in place to enable it to happen.

"But it is not now, not here, while Korriban runs through him" =/= "But it is not now, not here, given that Korriban runs through him". She's simply speaking in a very flowery manner where most of what she says is redundant. Meetra can not defeat him "now", and incidentally it is at that moment that "Korriban runs through him".

Edit - at what point does the quote come up in the second video?


"As long as the dark places of this world flow through the cracks of my flesh, I cannot be killed."
Originally posted by Sinious
Those quotes doesn't specifically expose the function of nexus in Sion's talent though.

Yes. Yes. they do.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice

Yes. Yes. they do.

lol I thought you were referring to the video which only watched from 4:30

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yes. Yes. they do.

Somewhat, Yes. But he was able to resurrect himself on the Harbinger. So there's that. I think outside of a Nexus, his ability is somewhat limited. But other than that there's not really much on how he's able to use that ability aside from the old "Angah and Hatred fuel my powah" etc etc.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Somewhat, Yes. But he was able to resurrect himself on the Harbinger. So there's that. I think outside of a Nexus, his ability is somewhat limited. But other than that there's not really much on how he's able to use that ability aside from the old "Angah and Hatred fuel my powah" etc etc.

On a nexus, he doesn't die. Off nexus he dies and takes extended periods of time to heal. Killing Sion off nexus will take him out for the count due to the number of times he's died all ready. Which is a lot.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Somewhat, Yes. But he was able to resurrect himself on the Harbinger. So there's that. I think outside of a Nexus, his ability is somewhat limited. But other than that there's not really much on how he's able to use that ability aside from the old "Angah and Hatred fuel my powah" etc etc.

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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
"As long as the dark places of this world flow through the cracks of my flesh, I cannot be killed."

That would make "the dark places of this world" a sufficient condition for his ability to function, not a necessary one. You really can't establish that he is doing anything more than claiming that due to the power of the darkside flowing though his body, he cannot be killed. This is no different to the numerous other times where a Sith will randomly credit the darkside when talking about how powerful they have become.

Really, no distinction is ever made between how his ability operates on Malachor V/Korriban, and how it operates elsewhere. The idea that his ability to continuously resurrect is reliant on a darkside nexus is clearly based off of a poor interpretation of the quotes.

Originally posted by appletonia
Really, no distinction is ever made between how his ability operates on Malachor V/Korriban, and how it operates elsewhere. The idea that his ability to continuously resurrect is reliant on a darkside nexus is clearly based off of a poor interpretation of the quotes.

Or the fact that every other time he was struck down it's stated that he literally died and it took time for him to comeback. This isn't seen on nexus.

What incidents are you referring to?

Well besides the fact he killed himself to get on board the Harbinger. It's said in the CG that Sion falls, and then gets back up. It also said he died many times. Whereas when we face him, he never dies, except for when the Exile convinces him to let go.

He was playing possum on the Harbinger, and the game switches between saying that he cannot die, and that he continuously dies and then comes back to life. They effectively mean the same thing. He had never truly died prior to his final battle with Ms Surik.

No he didn't. He was actually dead by all accounts. And the game doesn't switch back and forth, both time it is clearly stated that he can't be killed there.

Bane would merk Vitiate in combat, but he may not be willful enough to resist Vitiate's corruption, and will subsequently become an extension of the greatest quasi-ethereal wielder of Force energies in the mythos.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Keep in mind Carthage that no matter how much you cry Nexus, if Vitiate really was a weakling who required a nexus and prep for all of his power, than any powerful Sith could just waltz into the Dark Temple and slaughter him, with Vitiate's killer also benefiting from said nexus.

However that did not happen in a thousand years, despite numerous powerful Sith rising to prominence, the Sith in his empire were in awe of his power, and Vitiate has some pretty damn good hype in official sources. Not to mention, nobody gives a shit about nexuses. I have never seen a character go "he gets his powah from nexuses! We should get him off of nexuses so we can kill him!" or "he's too powerful on a dark side nexus!"

Just gotta say, he has a point that people use his nexus feats too much.
Also, we don't have any proof that Vitiate can force drain anyone who isn't willing to let him, but that still gets used constantly. (I mean come on, why not just go drain the Jedi temple, or ****ing coruscant)

But yeh, this thread is ridiculous. New Skotia> Dooku replacement meme incoming.

Originally posted by Sinious
Nah, its chill but I am curious to see you prove how Caedus is above dark council one-shoting. 馃槈

For the last ****ing time.

RITUALS MEAN JACK SHIT.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No he didn't. He was actually dead by all accounts. And the game doesn't switch back and forth, both time it is clearly stated that he can't be killed there.

He's always "dead by all accounts", when "all accounts" refers to all the biological and cosmetic indicators of life. He was clearly playing possum bro.

Originally posted by Selenial
For the last ****ing time.

RITUALS MEAN JACK SHIT.

Chill out pumpkin, he claims that Caedus is above prepped Vitiate so it isnt irrelevant in this case.

lol

That's rude.