馃槓
Sinious, I'mma slap you. The Dark Council was annihilated under unknown circumstances on a dark side nexus with Vitiate explicitly noted to have prior knowledge of their treacherous intentions and Vitiate has never ever ever displayed that sort of power elsewhere, especially in a combat scenario.
All of the available knowledge indicates a ritual or preparatory attack. Don't be silly.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
馃槓Sinious, I'mma slap you. The Dark Council was annihilated under unknown circumstances on a dark side nexus with Vitiate explicitly noted to have prior knowledge of their treacherous intentions and Vitiate has never ever ever displayed that sort of power elsewhere, especially in a combat scenario.
All of the available knowledge indicates a ritual or preparatory attack. Don't be silly.
馃憜
Originally posted by appletonia
He's always "dead by all accounts", when "all accounts" refers to all the biological and cosmetic indicators of life. He was clearly playing possum bro.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
馃槓Sinious, I'mma slap you. The Dark Council was annihilated under unknown circumstances on a dark side nexus with Vitiate explicitly noted to have prior knowledge of their treacherous intentions and Vitiate has never ever ever displayed that sort of power elsewhere, especially in a combat scenario.
All of the available knowledge indicates a ritual or preparatory attack. Don't be silly.
You can't even slap yourself. Don't try to contribute without knowing the argument buddy as it makes YOU look silly. 馃槈
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Never stated. He wouldn't be able to feel pain if he was "dead by all accounts" at all times, and if he can't feel pain, he'd die.
You're blatantly trolling at this point, or being stubborn as hell.
He obviously has some link to his body which is where the pain derives from, but the fact remains that it's clearly established that on a purely biological level, he is already dead, and that is all that they verified on the Harbinger.
You have absolutely no argument at this point.
Originally posted by Sinious
lol this is like saying God exists cause I can't prove he doesn't.
No, it's like saying you can't use Blue Bannanas in an argument of which natural foods look cool. I can't disprove that they exist, you have no evidence that they do, so we disregard it.
You cannot prove it wasn't a ritual. It's more likely than not that it was a ritual, because that's how he did things.
It's all conjecture, so using it is futile.
Originally posted by Selenial
No, it's like saying you can't use Blue Bannanas in an argument of which natural foods look cool. I can't disprove that they exist, you have no evidence that they do, so we disregard it.You cannot prove it wasn't a ritual. It's more likely than not that it was a ritual, because that's how he did things.
It's all conjecture, so using it is futile.
馃槀
You've shared your assumptions based on your emotional motivations thank you.
Now here are some facts:
- Vitiate's extremely powerful in the force.
- He decides to annihilate the Dark Council cause they are plotting.
- He is ready for them and is about to summon a force attack that he normally can't pull off(most likely) so he is prepped.
- He obliterates them.
Anything that you want to add here will be your own assumption. People have been ignoring this feat because there is info missing in context and now you want to add your own context and expect me to find it logical? Forgive me as I don't even take it seriously.
It shall be noted that:
1. The referred Dark Council related incident (involving Darth Lokess) occurred centuries before Revan's assassination attempt on the Emperor.
2. Emperor Vitiate continued to grow in power with passage of time.
Based on the aforementioned observations, it is possible or likely that Emperor Vitiate could pull off this mysterious attack/power without implied preparation at some point in the future.
Originally posted by Sinious
You can't even slap yourself.
Originally posted by Sinious
Don't try to contribute without knowing the argument buddy as it makes YOU look silly. 馃槈
Me
The Dark Council was annihilated under unknown circumstances on a dark side nexus with Vitiate explicitly noted to have prior knowledge of their treacherous intentions and Vitiate has never ever ever displayed that sort of power elsewhere, especially in a combat scenario.All of the available knowledge indicates a ritual or preparatory attack. Don't be silly.
Sinious
- He is ready for them and is about to summon a force attack that he normally can't pull off(most likely) so he is prepped.
Your backhanded concession is accepted. 馃憜
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It shall be noted that:1. The referred Dark Council related incident (involving Darth Lokess) occurred centuries before Revan's assassination attempt on the Emperor.
2. Emperor Vitiate continued to grow in power with passage of time.Based on the aforementioned observations, it is possible or likely that Emperor Vitiate could pull off this mysterious attack/power without implied preparation at some point in the future.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah. You need a baseline to make such statements, and he obviously wasn't that powerful in the novel.
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Servants of the Hand share their Master's longevity, living untouched by age for centuries under his command. In return, the Emperor draws on his servant's strength in the Force and body to feed his ever-increasing power, leaving the servants withered and frail.
This statement confirms that Emperor Vitiate continued to increase in power with passage of time.
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
A dozen bolts of purple lightning arced from the Emperor toward him. Revan tried to draw them in and contain them, but the Emperor was infinitely more powerful than Darth Nyriss had ever been.
In addition, after an investigation, Lord Scourge revealed to Revan and Meetra Surik that Emperor Vitiate summoned 9 members of the Dark Council to his chamber/throne room and slaughtered them all (The remaining members of the Dark Council were assassinated/eliminated via other means due to circumstances, one was killed by Revan himself). This event occurred some hours prior to second confrontation between Revan and Emperor Vitiate.
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I believe that Emperor Vitiate could eliminate Revan easily. However, this did not happen due to PIS. The author wanted to tell a story and not make this battle anti-climatic to avoid shitstorm from fans. The battle was actually over when Emperor Vitiate unleashed a potent lightning storm on Revan, in a single attack. I also believe that this isn't the best Emperor Vitiate have in his arsenal.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Ignored the part where he would've been killed on the spot by a lightsaber throw if Surik had chosen otherwise.
However, if the premise of your point is PIS, then your point is valid in this context. Meetra Surik got a chance to strike at Emperor Vitiate but she chose to save Revan instead, partly due to her Jedi mindset.
Originally posted by Sinious
- He is ready for them and is about to summon a force attack that he normally can't pull off
Doesn't matter if it was a ritual or a built up attack, it's something he can't do in a battle given the short amount of time he'd have and thus can't be used in a comparison.
TL;DR:
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your backhanded concession is accepted. 馃憜
I believe that Emperor Vitiate could eliminate Revan easily. However, this did not happen due to PIS. The author wanted to tell a story and not make this battle anti-climatic to avoid shitstorm from fans. The battle was actually over when Emperor Vitiate unleashed a potent lightning storm on Revan, in a single attack. I also believe that this isn't the best Emperor Vitiate have in his arsenal.
You amuse me.
People love to forget that Vitiates showings in battle are pretty measely to be honest, outside of prep and rituals he really hasn't done much...
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well he did godstomp 4 of the most powerful Jedi in the TOR era and punk out Revan.
Well again, they're supposedly the most battle hardened in The eyes of one guy. You want a solid team, you take Satele Shan, Dural, Barsen'thor, Syo Bakarn etcetera.
And yeh, a weakened Revan whilst in the heart of a Dark Side Nexus.
I remain unimpressed.