The eyes of one guy, SWTORE and the Act 2 Jedi Knight loading screen:
"With Grand Master Satele Shan's support, Master Braga assembles a strike team of the strongest and most resolute Jedi in the Order." - Swtore: Encyclopedia pg. 89
"Tol Braga is putting together a team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order (or something, I can't remember the exact wording)" - Swtor
Revan wasn't noted to be weakened and bluh bluh nexus.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The eyes of one guy, SWTORE and the Act 2 Jedi Knight loading screen:"With Grand Master Satele Shan's support, Master Braga assembles a strike team of the strongest and most resolute Jedi in the Order." - Swtore: Encyclopedia pg. 89
"Tol Braga is putting together a team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order (or something, I can't remember the exact wording)" - Swtor
Revan wasn't noted to be weakened and bluh bluh nexus.
L2English, "Of the strongest" just means picking out of a pool of strong people. For example, taking the best mathematicians in the country simply by looking at who did Maths at uni. Terrible example but you get it.
And really? He was drugged and "in a weakened state" for ages. Ever Ran a marathon? It's not the kind of thing you recover from overnight....
Originally posted by Selenial
L2English, "Of the strongest" just means picking out of a pool of strong people. For example, taking the best mathematicians in the country simply by looking at who did Maths at uni. Terrible example but you get it.And really? He was drugged and "in a weakened state" for ages. Ever Ran a marathon? It's not the kind of thing you recover from overnight....
Nah man, if they were just strong people they wouldn't be so verbally fellated. 3 different sources all call these guys among the greatest Jedi of the era. Braga says they're "a team of our best and brightest. Jedi who don't know the meaning of failure." The loading screen calls them 'the galaxies most powerful Jedi.' And Swtore calls them "the strongest and most resolute Jedi" of the Order. I'm not saying they're all the absolute best, the Barsen'thor is likely above all but the HoT and maybe Tol Braga, but they are certainly amongst the greatest in the Order. You're example is terrible, yes. If you recruited the best mathematicians in the country you'd pick the top men and women in the field, not those who did Maths ffs.
Yeah, but I don't have magic healing powers that let me recover from lightning in seconds and neutralize drugs and poison like Revan does.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah man, if they were just strong people they wouldn't be so verbally fellated. 3 different sources all call these guys among the greatest Jedi of the era. Braga says they're "a team of our best and brightest. Jedi who don't know the meaning of failure." The loading screen calls them 'the galaxies most powerful Jedi.' And Swtore calls them "the strongest and most resolute Jedi" of the Order. I'm not saying they're all the absolute best, the Barsen'thor is likely above all but the HoT and maybe Tol Braga, but they are certainly amongst the greatest in the Order. You're example is terrible, yes. If you recruited the best mathematicians in the country you'd pick the top men and women in the field, not those who did Maths ffs.Yeah, but I don't have magic healing powers that let me recover from lightning in seconds and neutralize drugs and poison like Revan does.
Seeing as you're one of the avid debaters than ROTS Sidious being the most powerful Sith by quote, doesnt mean anything if Vitiate's feats outclass him....
I'm sure you'd be happy to provide me some feats from these so called Most powerful jedi.
@ Selenial, I never said that he could do it without prep but for the last time the argument Im against is that Caedus can top Vitaite's prepped achievements so DC one-shoting is not irrelevant. Can you not read or something?
Originally posted by The_TempestYour backhanded concession is accepted. 馃憜
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Dude seriously, the argument is that Darth Caedus is above PREPED Vitaite. So again,
Know what the debate is about first and then you can try to mock other people all you want.
Originally posted by Sinious
@ Selenial, I never said that he could do it without prep but for the last time the argument Im against is that Caedus can top Vitaite's prepped achievements so DC one-shoting is not irrelevant. Can you not read or something?
I already answered that, I said I don't care what the past debates you've had are, the current one is that apparently Caedus can't one shot a council, and thus loses.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI believe that Emperor Vitiate could eliminate Revan easily. However, this did not happen due to PIS. The author wanted to tell a story and not make this battle anti-climatic to avoid shitstorm from fans. The battle was actually over when Emperor Vitiate unleashed a potent lightning storm on Revan, in a single attack. I also believe that this isn't the best Emperor Vitiate have in his arsenal.
He actually did defeat Revan instantly.
He casually/carelessly sent 3 lightning bolts at Revan as he didnt feel in danger at all at that point. He realized that he underestimated Revan when Revan deflected the attack back at him. Vitiate decided to end it quickly there and his concentrated lightning broke Revan's defenses almost instantly. This one detail should hint Vitiate's capabilities in the force in combat as I think DE Sidious is the only other sith that could insta-break Revan's defenses like that.
Originally posted by Selenial
Seeing as you're one of the avid debaters than ROTS Sidious being the most powerful Sith by quote, doesnt mean anything if Vitiate's feats outclass him....I'm sure you'd be happy to provide me some feats from these so called Most powerful jedi.
Er, wat?
Warren used to be the greatest Jedi in the Order before his injuries. While he has diminished, I'm sure he's still a mighty fighter. And he's the Order's best infiltrations expert, has good telepathic abilities and telekinetic power (though he was amped in the latters case). Leeha Narezz was known as a Jedi who had never been defeated. And Tol Braga dueled a Dark Council member for several days before converting him to the Light, broke Vitiate's mind control independently (the only Jedi to ever do so) and gave the Hero of Tython a great fight right before they fought Vitiate. All of them fought through the defenses of Vitiate's fortress, one of the most well protected strongholds in the galaxy filled with Sith and Imperial Guardsmen.
But really you can't argue with those quotes imo.