Originally posted by carver9
Yes he can take that kind of punishment. Also, Super does run out if juice.
How? Superman has fought weak, beaten down with knite and still won his battles.
Show me Supes running out of power before Goku.
Goku's power is based off Ki, where is Supermans is based of solar battery and the sun.
Assuming the sun is out, how is this happening before Goku goes down.
To add Deathbattles gives Superman the victory.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Besides the awful Power Level linear scaling?Multiplying all of his base feats by [b]4,000
while using SS4?Yeah.. anyhow this thread has long been over. [/B]
Like I said it's more legit in Goku case than Superman. You might want to recheck the fts that was mentioned and then they had him fighting in a fashion he's never done before and tanking everything. That version of Superman would stomp Galactus.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
How? Superman has fought weak, beaten down with knite and still won his battles.Show me Supes running out of power before Goku.
Goku's power is based off Ki, where is Supermans is based of solar battery and the sun.
Assuming the sun is out, how is this happening before Goku goes down.
To add Deathbattles gives Superman the victory.
You honestly don't know what you're saying. Sad thing is, I know more about Superman than most of his fans.
Originally posted by carver9
Like I said it's more legit in Goku case than Superman. You might want to recheck the fts that was mentioned and then they had him fighting in a fashion he's never done before and tanking everything. That version of Superman would stomp Galactus.
Um, no. They acted like there was no difference from base form to SSJ4, not to mention they didn't use any of Goku's feats that they didn't like. Such as outrunning solar flare in short range, flying across Namek in one 3 millionth's of a second, batting away planet busting+ attacks, tanking blasts from Omega Shenron(a universe buster), etc.
Also, there is no version of Superman that could even contend with Galactus, other than the Thought bot, which isn't actually Superman. They used feats from all over for him, but only manga, non-outlier(judged by them) feats for Goku. Not to mention that while they used power scaling for power levels, they didn't use it for feats, which makes more sense in the first place, considering they don't think SSJ4 Goku is a planet buster, when First form Frieza casually was. That Goku toyed with Super Perfect Cell AND Final form Frieza at the same time in BASE form with a child's body. And he apparently can't blow up a planet. 🤨
Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why you posted that since Superman doesn't fight anything like that, wouldn't withstand those attacks the way he did, and the fts mentioned was all wrong...even for Goku. Also this...I can post stuff like that as well. To bad mine was published in a book whereas yours was made on youtube.
all of those things are in the comics superman holding up the quintillion tons was in all star superman comics and thoe other feats occured in the comics when superman fought the elites
these feats occured whether younlike it or not
Originally posted by carver9
Like I said it's more legit in Goku case than Superman. You might want to recheck the fts that was mentioned and then they had him fighting in a fashion he's never done before and tanking everything. That version of Superman would stomp Galactus.
The animations in DBs are only for visual fun to represent the points they make. Their answer comes before the action scene.
Well its evened out when the powerpole kryptonited Supes.. all the noncanon helped Goku.
Their methods were fine for someone on their level. For us nerds sunk into calcs, we all still get the same result.
Originally posted by carver9I can post stuff like that as well. To bad mine was published in a book whereas yours was made on youtube.
You do realize that was basically published fan-fiction, right? Hell, UDON's bread and butter is their fanboy ridden Street Fighter comic rather than something original. Their words don't mean shit since it's clear they are simply going by personal preference rather than being objective. Most DB fanboys also don't read American comics since they can't handle any sort of graphic fiction that doesn't have Goku or Naruto or Ichigo in it.
Originally posted by Esomark
You do realize that was basically published fan-fiction, right? Hell, UDON's bread and butter is their fanboy ridden Street Fighter comic rather than something original. Their words don't mean shit since it's clear they are simply going by personal preference rather than being objective. Most DB fanboys also don't read American comics since they can't handle any sort of graphic fiction that doesn't have Goku or Naruto or Ichigo in it.
To bad I read American comics.
Originally posted by yungz22
all of those things are in the comics superman holding up the quintillion tons was in all star superman comics and thoe other feats occured in the comics when superman fought the elitesthese feats occured whether younlike it or not
Superman holding up that weight happened with an AMPED Superman that was about to die. Then it isn't canon to the real Supes. It's not canon at all. That's what I'm saying...the fts were exaggerated. They know nothing of the character and they mixed non canon material with the real deal. THEN, they fail to realize that during a lot of those scenes, Superman was amped.
When he built the city he was amped off of Blue Kryptonite. When he warmed the Earth with heat vision he was amped. Him, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter failed to pulled the Earth, Kyle had to come in (he had the Ion force during this time) and push the earth back into place. So much was left out. So much context. That's what I mean. If you don't read American comics, you would never know.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman holding up that weight happened with an AMPED Superman that was about to die. Then it isn't canon to the real Supes. It's not canon at all. That's what I'm saying...the fts were exaggerated. They know nothing of the character and they mixed non canon material with the real deal. THEN, they fail to realize that during a lot of those scenes, Superman was amped.When he built the city he was amped off of Blue Kryptonite. When he warmed the Earth with heat vision he was amped. Him, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter failed to pulled the Earth, Kyle had to come in (he had the Ion force during this time) and push the earth back into place. So much was left out. So much context. That's what I mean. If you don't read American comics, you would never know.
LHM
Originally posted by carver9
Superman holding up that weight happened with an AMPED Superman that was about to die. Then it isn't canon to the real Supes. It's not canon at all. That's what I'm saying...the fts were exaggerated. They know nothing of the character and they mixed non canon material with the real deal. THEN, they fail to realize that during a lot of those scenes, Superman was amped.When he built the city he was amped off of Blue Kryptonite. When he warmed the Earth with heat vision he was amped. Him, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter failed to pulled the Earth, Kyle had to come in (he had the Ion force during this time) and push the earth back into place. So much was left out. So much context. That's what I mean. If you don't read American comics, you would never know.
lol so it was a fake superman who performed those feats? oh and by the way in all star superman it was mentioned in the film about him being charged up by the sun?
also at the begining of the thread it was stated that all feats can be used for both characters
Originally posted by yungz22
lol so it was a fake superman who performed those feats? oh and by the way in all star superman it was mentioned in the film about him being charged up by the sun?also at the begining of the thread it was stated that all feats can be used for both characters
He isn't canon. That's like me using GT Goku for regular DBZ Goku. He.is.not.canon. Stop bringing him up. How about this, if you don't believe me, ask my buddy Juggerman above me if All Star Superman is canon. He is a different Superman from a different reality. He isn't mainstream Superman at all. Why does people debate on characters they have no clue about? DANG!!! Hell, you can Google it and it'll tell you he isn't canon.
So Goku is fighting 50 versions of Supermen? Did the Supermen do a fusion dance since we are using fts from different versions of Supes along with amped versions? Goku still wins.