Darth Bane Vs Obi-Wan Kenobi

Started by carthage9 pages
Don't flatter yourself.

You've offered no superior feats against the ones I listed for Obi wan, bowed out of the discussion, but by all means continue.

You showed Obi-Wan killing B1s and treated it like it was the most amazing thing don with TK since Nihilus. So yeah, I count Bane TKing random guards as well. But considering some of Bane's more impressive nexus feats are also against other Dark Side users, I don't really see the problem in using them. Finally, news flash, carthage, the battle takes place on a nexus. Just shut up about nexus already.

By all means utilize his nexus feats but all I have to do is say they aren't an example of his power. Again his feats off nexus are all inferior to the ones I listed for Obi wan, funny how you pick one to criticize when all of them surpass anything Bane has demonstrated. Bane never tapped into the Ambrian nexus like Zannah, so its irrelevant whether that darkside energy is there or not. He can't tap into it, or else he would've when he fought Zannah on Ambria. Really, when has Bane ever formed a tidal wave, lifted durasteel slabs, or moved a ship? Oh wait he never has!

Obi-Wan hasn't wtfpwn a single Force Sensitive ever. Forgive me for having my doubts.

Irrelevant to the point he is a jedi and wouldn't due to his morals, again, when has Bane ever collapsed a temple, moved a massive slab of rock, or disintegrated technobeasts off a nexus 👆

This battle's on a nexus. Nice job reading the OP. Not that I did any better by mentioning orbalisk.

A nexus which Bane never drew on to use, and there is no reason to believe he can considering Zannah was a sorcerer to tap into Ambria's energies and Bane failed to do so canonically in the book 👆

See above.

All of those are nexuses he tapped into, but he never tapped into the one on Ambria whether due to Karpashyn's terrible writing or his inability to due so. 👆

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
If Orbalisk being Bane's peak is the general consensus here, then yeah, you right to assume that.

Lmao why didn't you include that in the OP. Orbalisk Bane would win but not due to superior skill, only because he is a weak loser that needs armor to compete with high tier duelists.

Originally posted by carthage
Lmao why didn't you include that in the OP.

Because it's fun watching you make a fool out of yourself, cute even. 😉

Orbalisk Bane would win but not due to superior skill, only because he is a weak loser that needs armor to compete with high tier duelists.

Its even more fun to watch Neph get owned repeatedly.

Originally posted by carthage

A nexus which Bane never drew on to use, and there is no reason to believe he can considering Zannah was a sorcerer to tap into Ambria's energies and Bane failed to do so canonically in the book 👆

Lulz, why don't you wait to pick an argument before you continue. Proof that Bane drew on any other nexus.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lulz, why don't you wait to pick an argument before you continue. Proof that Bane drew on any other nexus.

I'll respond when you can actually prove that he can draw on the Ambrian nexus, considering you've done so poorly responding to my points to begin with.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane would one-shot Obi-Wan with TK or lightning and almost blitz him in sabers.
blitz him in sabers LOL that's beyond retarded. The general has canon saber strikes faster than bane has ever been said to do n he wasn't blitzed.. he's dealt with dooku in sabers 2 times n wasn't blized... fought anakin in an extended fight n wasn't blitzed. As a padawan he dealt with maul who killed his master and wasn't blitzed. It's borderline retarded to even say he be disposed quickly

Originally posted by carthage
I'll respond when you can actually prove that he can draw on the Ambrian nexus, considering you've done so poorly responding to my points to begin with.

What points? It's only a nexus feat when compared brought up, but as soon as the fight takes place on a nexus, someone has to prove he's actively drawing on it, just not on any other occassion? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all. But it's cool how you've talked yourself into a corner. I want proof Bane can actively tap into all the other nexus, and then I want to know how that's any different from the Ambrian one.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What points? It's only a nexus feat when compared brought up, but as soon as the fight takes place on a nexus, someone has to prove he's actively drawing on it, just not on any other occassion? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all. But it's cool how you've talked yourself into a corner. I want proof Bane can actively tap into all the other nexus, and then I want to know how that's any different from the Ambrian one.

Uh no? Again none of his feats accomplished on a nexus were ever replicated, ergo he can't do it due to the darkside saturation of the area.

On Korriban i,e the temple where Bane is trained Qordis outright confirms the temple (where Bane defeated Sirak) is a nexus and strong focal point of darkside energy. He never replicated the speed feats he accomplished in the temple, and Qordis confirms this himself:

"Korriban was the ancestral home of the Sith," Qordis explained. "This planet is a place
of great power; the dark side lives and breathes in the very core of this world
."
He paused and slowly extended his skeletal hand, palm upward. It almost seemed as if he
was cradling something unseen-something precious and invaluable-in his claw-like fingers.
"This temple we stand in was built many thousands of years ago to collect and focus that
power. Here you can feel the dark side at its strongest?
’ He closed his fist so tightly
that his long fingernails cut into his palm, drawing blood. "You have been chosen because
you have great potential," he whispered. "Great things are expected of the apprentices
here on Korriban. The training is difficult, but the rewards are great for those who
succeed."
-Path of Destruction

On Lehon Bane remarks that the darkside energy present was even more powerful than what he felt on Korriban:

As soon as Bane’s feet touched the Unknown World’s surface he felt it: a deep thrumming,
similar to what he’d first felt on Korriban but much, much stronger.
Even the air felt
different: heavy with ancient history and secrets long forgotten.

Bane feels the power of the temple /;

Bane couldn’t see more than a few meters ahead through the thick vegetation, but he knew
they were close now. [b[He could sense the power of the Temple[/b], calling to him from behind
the impenetrable curtain of tangled vines and twisted branches.

In the vicinity of the temple the darkside energy causes him to feel lightheaded and faint

He took a trembling step forward before stopping short. He shook his head to clear it. The
dark side was strong here, so strong it made him feel light-headed.

-Path of destruction

Bane reconfirms that there is great power in the interior of the temple:

Like Korriban, the Temple had been stripped of anything of value. He searched for hours,
beginning with the top floor where he had first come in and proceeding deeper and deeper
until he reached the bottom level, combing every centimeter of the empty halls and
deserted rooms. Yet even though his search was proving futile, he didn’t despair. The
crypts in the Valley of the Dark Lords had felt drained-used up and sucked dry. The
Unknown World felt different. There was still power here.
-Path of destruction

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I've already established that Bane's feats off nexus are clearly inferior to what he accomplished on darkside saturated worlds. He doesn't need to 'actively' draw on it, he can sense it around him and he is amped regardless. Again he never accomplished anything similar to moving faster than a roomful of Sith could perceive, toppling a temple, or any of that. Kenobi of his own natural power is superior to Bane in every way

Originally posted by Trocity
You're not actually saying Maul>Bane, are you?

How is that a bad thing? Maul is vastly more skilled than Bane, has better dueling feats, is faster, and has superior feats in TK.

Bane is closer to folk like Quinlan Vos or Qui Gon Jin in terms of skill.

Originally posted by carthage
*snip*

All you've established is that he can feel it, but I'm not seeing where he actively proves he can use it. I'm not sure Bane even knows how to use a nexus.

Why are you talking to carthage?

Because I find him amusing?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Why are you talking to carthage?

Not sure why u said this when u hysterical said bane can blitz kenobi lulz

Are you another Intrepid sock?

(jk)

Carthage's constant use of double standards, gross under-exaggeration of Bane's feats, and viewpoints on Bane's fights that arbitrarily change based on which character he's trying to lowball make him not worth my time.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Carthage's constant use of double standards, gross under-exaggeration of Bane's feats, and viewpoints on Bane's fights that arbitrarily change based on which character he's trying to lowball make him not worth my time.

Ive humiliated you in every Bane thread youve ever posted in, kiddo. Bane has no feats to compare, the only reason I even respond to your posts anymore at all is to further discredit you from the few posters on this site that arent contaminated by fanboyism like your or Neph. lmao, what double standards you mean your inability to bring up superior feats for Bane in the face of superior characters? Go away you aren't even apart of this discussion

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
All you've established is that he can feel it, but I'm not seeing where he actively proves he can use it. I'm not sure Bane even knows how to use a nexus.

And youve yet to establish that Bane (in spite of cannonical evidence and his own admission of feeling the darkside energies) was able to achieve those feats in spite of those two factors? Bane never achieved the same destructive level of hos feats on TK anywhere else other than those planets. He cannot do so under normal circumstances

Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you another Intrepid sock?

Yeah its him.

@ Intrepid

C-walk homie 😎

Originally posted by Sinious
Yeah its him.

@ Intrepid

C-walk homie 😎

No its not dimwit, he's been on this forum longer than Intrepid. He isnt a spck of him unless Jack has been arguing SW since 2008. Kurupt just recognizes Nephs laughable fanboyism of Bane