Useless team member cut

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman is never useless, if anything Wonder Woman is the most useless of all of them. Strength? Superman. Speed? Flash. Energy attacks? GL. All she's useful for is her lasso.

She comes a lot closer to the strength and speed of those guys then Batman does. So in a fight, I don't see how she would be more useless then Batman, especially a Batman who has not had a chance to prep.

You assume that if a certain person has the highest level of strength on the team..that for some reason that means anyone with the same power, but at lower levels will be of no use at all? That isn't quite accurate, especially in comics where you have characters forgetting their various super powers left and right..

Tbh, that lasso is super useful.

Hate to say this but Luke Cage could come under this category. The fight with Raganarok illustrates this. Danny hit Ragna harder than Luke Cage and Wolverine did the most damage. I know Wolverine is a brick killer but Luke Cage is also a brick it's his job to deal with bricks and all he did was punch Ragnarok once.

Originally posted by Surtur
She comes a lot closer to the strength and speed of those guys then Batman does. So in a fight, I don't see how she would be more useless then Batman, especially a Batman who has not had a chance to prep.

You assume that if a certain person has the highest level of strength on the team..that for some reason that means anyone with the same power, but at lower levels will be of no use at all? That isn't quite accurate, especially in comics where you have characters forgetting their various super powers left and right..

She is second in everything and has nothing unique to offer other than her lasso. Batman does possess his smarts.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But any threat who Superman can't take out with strength is going to beat the shit out of her.

She is second in everything and has nothing unique to offer other than her lasso. Batman does possess his smarts.

But there are some things you can't just punch your way through.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But there are some things you can't just punch your way through.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman is never useless, if anything Wonder Woman is the most useless of all of them. Strength? Superman. Speed? Flash. Energy attacks? GL. All she's useful for is her lasso.

No.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But there are some things you can't just punch your way through.

so what if his plans were stolen the point is that is how Batman is useful to the team and very very dangerous in general. The fact that he is aware of his shortcomings in the superpower department and has gone to great lengths to even the playing field, even against his own teammates shows that he is more ruthless, more cunning and more willing to take it that extra little bit to get the job done against those that have great advantage over him. He's the guy that doesn't care if you can one punch a planet he will plot in secret to find a way to beat you and a man that knows himself and his enemy is a very dangerous man indeed. Read Art of War noobs

Originally posted by abhilegend
But any threat who Superman can't take out with strength is going to beat the shit out of her.

She is second in everything and has nothing unique to offer other than her lasso. Batman does possess his smarts.

If you're up against heavy magic, need a lie detector, or need someone absolutely immune to tp, then she's pretty useful. That, and her being in with pantheons.

Of course, on average Martian Manhunters far more useful, but he's usually wasted sitting on his ass playing operator at the base.

Originally posted by cdtm
Of course, on average Martian Manhunters far more useful, but he's usually wasted sitting on his ass playing operator at the base.

Which is where Batman should be.

It really depends on what they're facing.

Flash is the most useful for combat, GL for practical applications of power and Superman is a mix between the two.

Originally posted by relentless1
so what if his plans were stolen the point is that is how Batman is useful to the team and very very dangerous in general. The fact that he is aware of his shortcomings in the superpower department and has gone to great lengths to even the playing field, even against his own teammates shows that he is more ruthless, more cunning and more willing to take it that extra little bit to get the job done against those that have great advantage over him. He's the guy that doesn't care if you can one punch a planet he will plot in secret to find a way to beat you and a man that knows himself and his enemy is a very dangerous man indeed. Read Art of War noobs

Except his plans were idiotic.

He effectively gave Superman a sundip.

Oh no, Superman's gone rogue! Luckily I have developed just the plan to deal with him!

By synthesising this isotope of Kryptonite, not only will he absorb more sunlight than usual, he'll also be driven mad with pain! Mwahaha this will stop him!!!

This is why Batman needs a Robin. To tell him when his plans are retarded.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh no, Superman's gone rogue! Luckily I have developed just the plan to deal with him!

By synthesising this isotope of Kryptonite, not only will he absorb more sunlight than usual, he'll also be driven mad with pain! Mwahaha this will stop him!!!

This is why Batman needs a Robin. To tell him when his plans are retarded.

He definitely has no other use.

Originally posted by SquallX
No.

I'd rather have Hawkeye than Wasp, tbh.

So would i, power wise.
Both have proven yo be great leaders, though that really isnt the point here.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'd rather have Hawkeye than Wasp, tbh.

Good to haveyyou back.

Originally posted by riv6672
Definitely no.
The reality is, Superman can and has been taken out by forces Diana can tank.

Its ahbi, what you expect.

He believe Superman can do anything and beat anyone.