Originally posted by SquallX
Its ahbi, what you expect.He believe Superman can do anything and beat anyone.
Oh wait, she wasn't effective in her own event Amazons Attack............
I'm sorry but I just don't see how you could possibly think Clark is smarter than Bruce. I know Clark's not as dumb as a lot of people make him out to be. In fact, he's quite smart but Batman is the smartest JLA member, imo.
Oh, and just so you know, I'm a MUCH bigger Superman fan than Batman so I'm not basing my opinion on bias but on what I think is the truth.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, just look how effective Wonder Woman was in Superman: Doomed or in Final Crisis or Infinite Crisis or any large event............Oh wait, she wasn't effective in her own event Amazons Attack............
Because most writers loves sucking Superman's dick and knows little when it concerns characters like Diana.
Diana if written the right way, by an author that actually knows the Mythos of the Greek Pantheons would make her one of the most powerful DC Herald bar none.
Diana is giving an aspects of certain Gods, yet the author never uses it to it's abilities.
The Wisdom of Athena is one of the most dangerous ability Diana has in her disposal, but never make use of.
In Greek Mythos, few Gods matched Athena. Hell, she can even gave Ares, the God of War a run for his money in warfare. She is the Goddess strategic warfare for god sake.
So...............nothing but blaming the writers for the incompetency of a character? Gotcha.
But that doesn't explains how she was totally ineffective in her own event Amazons Attack or in War of the Gods and when Gail Simone, a WW fangirl wrote her. You'd think she would be kicking ass and taking names in those events.
Oh wait..........
Originally posted by abhilegend
So...............nothing but blaming the writers for the incompetency of a character? Gotcha.But that doesn't explains how she was totally ineffective in her own event Amazons Attack or in War of the Gods and when Gail Simone, a WW fangirl wrote her. You'd think she would be kicking ass and taking names in those events.
Oh wait..........
Are you stupid? Who else would i blame when its people that writes her story?
In Amazon Attacks, all that happened was part of Darkseid's plans i believe. Never read War Of The Gods.
Could care less about Gail Simone been a fangirl of WW. Her being a fan girl doesn't automatically makes her the right person to write a good story involving her.
You for example are a fanboy that claims to know Superman. When all you're arguments fail, you starts sprouting non existing numbers to make you're point.
I don't think you're being fair to Abhi, WW is at best a 75 to Superman 100. Superman is considerably Stronger, Tougher and Faster than her. The reason they sometimes looks a lot closer is SM is continually holding back due to his fear of killing his opponent, while WW does so to a much lesser degree since killing rarely bother her. Add WW skill, bracers blocking and willingness to go All tthey look than they should. Nevertheless vif you read DC comics for any lenht of time outside of Comics like Spectre SM has no equals at best he has rivals like Cap Marvel and Orion.
Originally posted by Deadline
Hate to say this but Luke Cage could come under this category. The fight with Raganarok illustrates this. Danny hit Ragna harder than Luke Cage and Wolverine did the most damage. I know Wolverine is a brick killer but Luke Cage is also a brick it's his job to deal with bricks and all he did was punch Ragnarok once.
That is less Luke Cage being useless and more like "Wolverine was there". Sometimes that is all it takes to render useful characters useless. He's sort of like the Batman of Marvel.
Originally posted by abhilegend
But any threat who Superman can't take out with strength is going to beat the shit out of her.
Why do you assume the only threats she will take on are ones Superman failed to beat? Superman, fast as he is, can't be everywhere at once. There also might come times when they are attacked by multiple villains and given comic writers propensity to have Supes forget he has super speed..there can still be plenty for Wonder Woman to do. This becomes an entirely different topic if it is "people who are useless if all their team members suddenly stop suffering from PIS permanently".
She is second in everything and has nothing unique to offer other than her lasso. Batman does possess his smarts.
His smarts only take him so far without any prep. The thing is Batman is just as f*cked against someone Superman can't take down as Wonder Woman is. Actually no, he would be way way way more f*cked. At least he'd have the fortune of being splattered into red paste before he even knows what happened. There would be no time for him to feel pain. Wonder Woman probably wouldn't be as lucky.
WW certainly isn't useless.
Her lasso, in example, is exceptionally good for capturing people and shenanigans like that. Same with Green Lantern. There's no way they could pull off things like moving the earth without a ring-created harness or the lasso.
She's also the only one who can effectively see through -any- illusion and lie.
Originally posted by SquallX
Are you stupid? Who else would i blame when its people that writes her story?In Amazon Attacks, all that happened was part of Darkseid's plans i believe. Never read War Of The Gods.
Could care less about Gail Simone been a fangirl of WW. Her being a fan girl doesn't automatically makes her the right person to write a good story involving her.
You for example are a fanboy that claims to know Superman. When all you're arguments fail, you starts sprouting non existing numbers to make you're point.
Heh, Darkseid wasn't involved in Amaons attack. You don't even read the comic of the character you're getting worked over? Lulz.
Who said it would mean a good story? But she wasn't even effective in the comic where a fangirl wrote her.
What numbers? Are you dyslexic or what?
Originally posted by Bentley
Batman depends on his guile to make anything at all, so he does smart stuff more often. I wouldn't say his smarts couldn't be effectively replaced by a bunch of other characters.
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree then because I feel that Batman's brains and tactical leadership are an invaluable part of the JLA which can't be replaced by anyone.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't get your panties in a twist.Heh, Darkseid wasn't involved in Amaons attack. You don't even read the comic of the character you're getting worked over? Lulz.
Who said it would mean a good story? But she wasn't even effective in the comic where a fangirl wrote her.
What numbers? Are you dyslexic or what?
It's because of your stupidity if there in a twist.
Granny Goodness was involved, so am pretty sure Darkseid had a hand to play.
Because that fangirl is an idiot, just like your an idiotic superman fanboy if given the chance to write a Superman story, it would be nothing but high end feats with no subtext and a plot that would make a newborn cries of your stupidity.
You calling me dyslexic, thats rich coming from the guy that forgets all the random numbers he pulls out of his ass to give Superman feats a boost.
You should go and read the Mythos of the Greek Pantheons, and see the powers they wield, and if any writers were to ever incorporated into the Diana Mythos, she would be near impossible to beat.