Question for Muslims

Originally posted by konfetka
Bible tells us not to eat pork:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/eating_pork
We still eat pork. Is our religion unclean then?
Explain

Stop eating pork right now! More bacon for me. 😎

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Stop eating pork right now! More bacon for me. 😎

More fat for you any time 😆

Originally posted by konfetka
More fat for you any time 😆

Bacon on everything. 😄

My religion doesn't tell me what to eat; it tells me to take responsibility for what I eat.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

My religion doesn't tell me what to eat; it tells me to take responsibility for what I eat.

Originally posted by konfetka
Some people here prefer to call others names while deceiving selves and closing eyes on their own religion. Do not judge, and you will not be judged.
The problem is not the problem. The problem is your own attitude about the problem.

"The problem is not the problem." this is just double talk. And I don't have an attitude about a problem because I have no idea what you are talking about.

Is more bacon for me, judging? 🤨

I think maybe you are just drunk, or something.

Its sad the humor on the bacon part of the OP was missed after that huge bacon thread Enin made...clearly this place needs a whoopie cushion.

Bacon warning..

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t592809.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t592809.html

It was an extremely xenophobic and inappropriate joke. Your whole initial post is nothing but antagonistic to a group that's already persecuted heavily in the west. Shameful, really.

Shakyamunison You misunderstood me I didn't mean you.

I was addressing my post to the op author by saying "someone here"
However, this person chose to troll again (just the same way throughout the whole thread) instead of addressing my question and posted something utterly unrelated which proved that he sees himself as a judge of religion in which he sees only the top of the iceberg, or what Fox channel shows him...

Time, us of a is a country that welcomes and tolerates all cultures and religions and you are just acting as an ignorant red-neck stuck in his own little world.
Again, the problem is not the problem. The problem is your own attitude about the problem.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You obviously are butt hurt about a religion you don't even partake in. If you read the OP you could specifically see I was talking about radicals, be mad bro, be real mad 😆 😆

Originally posted by Omega Vision

For a while now I've come to believe that it's simply a matter of time. Christianity has had five centuries more time to mellow out than Islam has.

the scary thing about militant islam is that they often come from well educated and wealthy backgrounds. they're not just ignorant backwards people. they often have backgrounds in engineering, medicine, etc. they just really believe their version of religion is correct and necessary and they are willing to die for it.

Originally posted by konfetka
Shakyamunison You misunderstood me I didn't mean you.

I was addressing my post to the op author by saying "someone here"
However, this person chose to troll again (just the same way throughout the whole thread) instead of addressing my question and posted something utterly unrelated which proved that he sees himself as a judge of religion in which he sees only the top of the iceberg, or what Fox channel shows him...

Time, us of a is a country that welcomes and tolerates all cultures and religions and you are just acting as an ignorant red-neck stuck in his own little world.
Again, the problem is not the problem. The problem is your own attitude about the problem.

Okay, I see. No problem. Thanks for making that clear.

Given modern technological advances, particularly in weaponry, I don't think we have the luxury of letting Islam simply 'sweat this out', particularly because this isn't happening in isolation where these areas of the world do not have exposure to more secular ways of life. It's persisting in spite of being surrounded and exposed to modern society. When the most advanced weapon on the playing field was a crossbow or musket and a cannon was a WMD, sure, patience was reasonable, though it still cost millions of innocent lives in the name of 'heresy'. We're now in an era where a suitcase bomb or biological agent in a water supply can take out a significant portion of a city in the name of your sacred cow of choice, and with people STILL being beheaded for 'heresy' in the 21st Century. Modern zealotry of any stripe needs to be reined in, theological or otherwise.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It was an extremely xenophobic and inappropriate joke. Your whole initial post is nothing but antagonistic to a group that's already persecuted heavily in the west. Shameful, really.

No one cares what you think Marius, go join the UCLA.

Originally posted by SamZED
You are the only one who is butt hurt here and obviously biased seeing how you made a retarded generalized statement then cowered away once you got called on it. Even when I told you and i quote "I only argue the stupid generalized statement" from your original post you didn't feel the need to clarify anything about it, not until you realized you got yourself cornered with your own stupidity. That's when you started backpedaling. Sorry, too late. Everyone already saw you for a bigot that you are. You can still save the face though. First step would be admitting that you've made a stupid generalized statement because you're a bigot and now are just trying to change the subject. You're not fooling anyone anyway. Good luck. 👆

Wrong. Badabing said it best and better then me, you were too cowedly to respond to him just like you to ashamed to admit you were wrong and I was clearly talking about radicals from the first page dummy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I posted a similar opinion on another site. I think Affleck's problem was he got too angry. I agreed with what he was trying to say. He just couldn't say it without getting furious. It's true: hundreds of millions of Muslims are peaceful people who would never condone the actions of some of the more extreme. Just because some countries with lots of Muslims who are at war or just recently at war hold stupid opinions, does not mean they represent the other hundreds of millions of Muslims.

Also, did Islam make them like that or are they like that for other reasons and Islam is used as an excuse?

Lemme give you another example: Mormonism is fraught with self-righteous judgementalism. It is infuriating. Our religion actually teaches us, officially, to do the exact opposite. That doesn't stop tons of Mormons from persecuting homosexuals and ostracizing them.

Basically, to argue against Harris, because I'm clearly better at it than Affleck:

Would you look at that: Muslims are the least militaristically violent group. 😄

Second, but a distant second are your Mormons. I'm actually shocked. Mormons supported Bush, in general.

Also, if we REALLY REALLY want to argue against Harris' position, Gallop conducted a ridiculously awesome poll and in the poll, they conclude that the radicals comprise about 7% of their group. That's quite a bit and considerably more than probably any other religion in the world, imo.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104941/what-makes-radical.aspxGallup.com,

A majority did not support the 9-11 attacks, which is important. That's a majority: hundreds of millions of Muslims.

I think that last link, everyone should read. It shows you that, yes, Muslims are pretty damn violent compared to other religious groups. But it also shows you that they are not all horrible violent beasts.

Edit - Also, if Ben would have done just about 2 minutes of research before going onto that show, he would have been able to hand Harris' ass to him. Instead, he just got b*tchy.

Is that chart only of Americans though? "via Muslim American polls"

Originally posted by SamZED
You are the only one who is butt hurt here and obviously biased seeing how you made a retarded generalized statement then cowered away once you got called on it. Even when I told you and i quote "I only argue the stupid generalized statement" from your original post you didn't feel the need to clarify anything about it, not until you realized you got yourself cornered with your own stupidity. That's when you started backpedaling. Sorry, too late. Everyone already saw you for a bigot that you are. You can still save the face though. First step would be admitting that you've made a stupid generalized statement because you're a bigot and now are just trying to change the subject. You're not fooling anyone anyway. Good luck. 👆

What you can't add up is yes it was a question for Muslims, but in no way did I imply that 1 billion people are terrorists, I was asking and hoping for a response from a Muslim that might be able to explain the crazy behavior of the radical side, but you got ur head so far up your ass you cant tell a difference between a generalization from a targeted and specific question.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What you can't add up is yes it was a question for Muslims, but in no way did I imply that 1 billion people are terrorists, I was asking and hoping for a response from a Muslim that might be able to explain the crazy behavior of the radical side

You need to work on your wording then, cos it came off as belligerent and discriminatory to just about everyone here:

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Why is your beliefs and practices so violent against non Muslims. Also why do you discriminate against women? Considering western culture and most of the world think how you treat women, they consider the men of Islam pigs, but you won't eat bacon because its unclean. Isn't the whole religion unclean as well.

Explain

Originally posted by Robtard
Is that chart only of Americans though? "via Muslim American polls"

The chart, yes. But the Gallop poll, which is far superior than the cherry-picked examples Harris' was using, no.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What you can't add up is yes it was a question for Muslims, but in no way did I imply that 1 billion people are terrorists, I was asking and hoping for a response from a Muslim that might be able to explain the crazy behavior of the radical side, but you got ur head so far up your ass you cant tell a difference between a generalization from a targeted and specific question.

Asking a Muslim to explain the radical actions of jihadist terrorists is no different than asking a Christian to explain the actions of the WBC.