Originally posted by janus77
As far as Marvel are concerned, it is perfectly fine for Hulk to take on half the power of an abstract without even resorting to WBH craziness.Marvel have always indicated that Hulk has the potential to be beyond anything in the universe (Beyonder's comment, the other frequent scientific tests that point to "infinite energy" etc).
I would not be surprised if Hulk did amp enough to get the job done. That's just the character Marvel made him (from the very beginning).
He's powered through time and past a time freeze, what limits we place on him are purely arbitrary and the result of our desire not to believe what Marvel are shouting at us from the pages of their comics.
Hulk used to just leap between continents, now he leaps between planets. Exponential growth in power output but still in line with his original parameters.
That's all fine, until he turns around and gets rick rolled by Sungod (a nearly unknown character) and then, the Abomination zombie goes nuts and bakes him like a potato at his own fighting style. I agree that a fully focused and ultimately agitated Hulk is up there in the clouds somewhere, but on average there are guys that would put down a less than ultimately agitated Hulk. Hopefully what I just wrote doesn't offend anyone. It's really just about what I saw on panel. has the Hulk ever got the better of the Silver Surfer?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Really? Granted one and two are cake walks but once u get to Diana and Billy it's progressively harder to just power thru. Even with these two elite strong men. What's your argument for them winning btw
Originally posted by Stoic
That's all fine, until he turns around and gets rick rolled by Sungod (a nearly unknown character) and then, the Abomination zombie goes nuts and bakes him like a potato at his own fighting style. I agree that a fully focused and ultimately agitated Hulk is up there in the clouds somewhere, but on average there are guys that would put down a less than ultimately agitated Hulk. Hopefully what I just wrote doesn't offend anyone. It's really just about what I saw on panel. has the Hulk ever got the better of the Silver Surfer?
What are you talking about? No one here is saying Hulk can't lose and before losing to Sungod, he was beating the h*** out of him. It wasn't a easy win for the guy but again, characters do lose. It is what it is.
Has Silver Surfer fought Hulk recently? Things would probably play out different since Hulk has most def received a jump in power. Also, one of your faves (Blue Marvel) got taken out by Hyperion with a couple of blows. Don't see you throwing that around in people face. Don't see you bringing up Sentry loses either or Thor's. If you are going to cling to a loss for one character, make sure you open your eyes and look at the other characters as well.
Originally posted by Stoic
That's all fine, until he turns around and gets rick rolled by Sungod (a nearly unknown character) and then, the Abomination zombie goes nuts and bakes him like a potato at his own fighting style. I agree that a fully focused and ultimately agitated Hulk is up there in the clouds somewhere, but on average there are guys that would put down a less than ultimately agitated Hulk. Hopefully what I just wrote doesn't offend anyone. It's really just about what I saw on panel. has the Hulk ever got the better of the Silver Surfer?
I'm talking of how I would not be surprised if Hulk became exponentially more powerful, and got the job done against Monarch etc.
I think it's entirely possible and in character for Hulk to leap to that kind of level. Seeing how Marvel have always left the lid off of his power gauge and of late (the past 10 years, say) have made more of a point of demonstrating how instantaneous and astronomical that leap can be.
I'm well aware of his variability, happens with all major power houses (less likely with the street levellers).
Re that SunGod fight, I'd always assumed that was Waid era Hulk but from an alternative Earth. The Hulk currently working for The Avengers or in either of his books (Savage Hulk / Hulk) doesn't have that pseudo-Savage Hulk vocabulary.
Was that Hulk from 616?
Regarding Surfer ... My position has always been that he is made to job because he simply has too much power and versatility.
He is, basically, Galactus-lite. Everything Galactus can do, he can accomplish and/or has accomplished at a smaller scale.
We've seen how durable he really is, when he took on T&A, we've seen how when he unleashes a little he makes mid-heralds look like toddlers attacking bears (Nova and BRB getting humiliated) and we've seen him take everything Hulk could muster and not even flinch.
I think against current Hulk, Surfer would have a much harder time, but I doubt Hulk would win. I don't think anyone that can withstand a sustained pounding from Tenebrous and then go channel the Crunch Energies is falling to current Hulk.
WBH, yeah I think I can see that happen (unless Surfer amps himself up a little).
Originally posted by janus77
I think we're talking at cross-purposes here.I'm talking of how I would not be surprised if Hulk became exponentially more powerful, and got the job done against Monarch etc.
I think it's entirely possible and in character for Hulk to leap to that kind of level. Seeing how Marvel have always left the lid off of his power gauge and of late (the past 10 years, say) have made more of a point of demonstrating how instantaneous and astronomical that leap can be.
I'm well aware of his variability, happens with all major power houses (less likely with the street levellers).
Re that SunGod fight, I'd always assumed that was Waid era Hulk but from an alternative Earth. The Hulk currently working for The Avengers or in either of his books (Savage Hulk / Hulk) doesn't have that pseudo-Savage Hulk vocabulary.
Was that Hulk from 616?
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Originally posted by abhilegendFalse. Quit making things up. Sungod is not Superman. The leaps and bounds you go to downplay other characters and make things up is a sign of insecurity.
It was 616 hulk. Even marvel think that Superman>Hulk. Isn't that marvelous?🙂
Hulk is badder, stronger, and better than Superman based off of portrayals and feats.
Originally posted by janus77
It's the comic equivalent of a pity **** 😉Especially since DC knows Hulk is far superior to Superman.
That's the weakest superman ever, Byrne Superman beating Hulk clean.
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