Originally posted by FreshestSlice
KotOR's story is the same cookie cutter BioWare's been hashing since the 90s, but it's a classic?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
KotOR's story is the same cookie cutter BioWare's been hashing since the 90s, but it's a classic?
Originally posted by Nephthys
The darkness of Kotor2 is really exaggerated. It probably has just as much humor as Kotor does, which had it's fair share of darkness btw what with Taris being destroyed, multiple torture scenes, Carth whinging and the DS ending where you kill Jolee, Juhani and Mission. Most of the darkness of Kotor 2 was in the characters backstories, the evil characters and the galaxy struggling after 2 large-scale wars. Other than those points I can't think of much that was actually that dark. It just isn't the thrilling space opera that Kotor 1 is. And it's not as edgy as anyone says. Can anyone actually give me an example of the game trying to be edgy?
I said it tried too hard to be these things. Took itself far too seriously and is replete with missed opportunities. It's an emo kid's wet dream, no doubt, but doesn't do anything for me.
But it didn't take itself too seriously. As I said, it had a ton of humor in it. The first thing that happens is that you get snarked at by Kreia, then you meet Atton who makes bad jokes every other line, then you meet HK-50 who is hilarious, kill Sith, blow up Paragus, run around Telos, play as that droid for a bit etc. None of this stuff "tries too hard" to be dark or edgy and that carries on throughout the game. Kotor 1 is darker and edgier than Kotor 2. Kotor 2 does have a more sombre tone and has deeper, more philosophical themes but you've never shown where exactly this hurts the game. You're just a whingy baby making a mountain out of a molehill and repeating LL's criticisms.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But it didn't take itself too seriously. As I said, it had a ton of humor in it. The first thing that happens is that you get snarked at by Kreia, then you meet Atton who makes bad jokes every other line, then you meet HK-50 who is hilarious, kill Sith, blow up Paragus, run around Telos, play as that droid for a bit etc. None of this stuff "tries too hard" to be dark or edgy and that carries on throughout the game. Kotor 1 is darker and edgier than Kotor 2. Kotor 2 does have a more sombre tone and has deeper, more philosophical themes but you've never shown where exactly this hurts the game. You're just a whingy baby making a mountain out of a molehill and repeating LL's criticisms.
😂
Good to know I can still bring you to tears after all this time about your favorite stories and characters. How about we start talking about The Joker for old time's sake?
Don't ever change, Neph. 😂
Good thing to know that you'll keep pretending that you're trolling to mask your laziness and incompetence. The fact that I put the minimum of effort into my response and called you mean words doesn't mean I got worked up. No matter how many laughing emotes you post. I wrote that while watching an LP of Xcom: the Bureau, I assure you I was more interested in that then you.
Oh, please. Your butthurt over this and many other topics has been the stuff of legend for years. Remember all those rants dedicated to how The Joker was objectively, factually the best villain ever?
watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
Pretty sure this was you during a Britney Spears phase. 😂
Neph
I wrote that while watching an LP of Xcom: the Bureau, I assure you I was more interested in that then you.
Yeah, yeah, we know. LOL IM NOT INTERESTED IN UR OPINION... even as I actively engage you... LOL THIS STUFF ISNT IMPORTANT... even tho I have like 15k posts dedicated to the subject...
You're transparent as ever, Casper. 😂
She got beat up. Indignity.
Originally posted by The_TempestOh, please. Your butthurt over this and many other topics has been the stuff of legend for years. Remember all those rants dedicated to how The Joker was objectively, factually the best villain ever?
watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
Pretty sure this was you during a Britney Spears phase. 😂
I remember them being like 4 years ago, sure. I was more angry over a friend acting like a towering dick to me than anything else. And iirc I was only saying he was better than Palpatine, which is still objectively true. 😉
I assure you, I'm not "mad", and your deflections won't work. You can't contradict my point, admit it.
Originally posted by The_TempestYeah, yeah, we know. LOL IM NOT INTERESTED IN UR OPINION... even as I actively engage you... LOL THIS STUFF ISNT IMPORTANT... even tho I have like 15k posts dedicated to the subject...
You're transparent as ever, Casper. 😂
Yeah, because it's such an effort for me to... remember the first two planets of the game then write about them. Just because I'm talking to you doesn't mean I'm emotionally invested in the conversation. I know you like to think that you're the most important thing ever but I can actually disagree with you and call you whingy without giving much of a shit.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I remember them being like 4 years ago, sure.
Which makes it all the more amusing when that butthurt manifests now.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I was more angry over a friend acting like a towering dick to me than anything else.
Not really. You were angry over the fact that not everyone shared your opinion on a totally subjective issue.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And iirc I was only saying he was better than Palpatine, which is still objectively true. 😉
Originally posted by Nephthys
I assure you, I'm not "mad", and your deflections won't work.
I know you desperately want me to believe you're not angry because you despise the power I have over you.
I assure you, though, that I know better.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You can't contradict my point, admit it.
Which one's that, again?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, because it's such an effort for me to... remember the first two planets of the game then write about them. Just because I'm talking to you doesn't mean I'm emotionally invested in the conversation. I know you like to think that you're the most important thing ever but I can actually disagree with you and call you whingy without giving much of a shit.
Whatever you have to tell yourself to get by, my son. 😂
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Which makes it all the more amusing when that butthurt manifests now.
What am I butthurt over again? I'm not butthurt over you saying Kotor 2 was too dark and edgy because I easily called you on it and showed it wasn't true. So its no big deal.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not really. You were angry over the fact that not everyone shared your opinion on a totally subjective issue.
The same thing happened a month ago with Ant, so yeah it is true. It wasn't the pony stuff, I've seen worse, its that a friend was being a jackass to me. Which makes me mad. Just like how it wasn't anything to do with the Joker, it was that you were trying so hard to piss me off... that pissed me off.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I know you desperately want me to believe you're not angry because you despise the power I have over you.I assure you, though, that I know better.
No, you're just desperate to try to feel that you have power over me. The truth is that I just like talking to you but find your constant baiting and attempts to act as if you "got" me to be very tiresome.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Which one's that, again?
The Kotor 2 thing. Keep up gramps. 😉
(This is a friendly joke. It does not mean that I am getting frustrated with the conversation. I just felt like I should give you this disclaimer to help you understand.)
Originally posted by The_TempestWhatever you have to tell yourself to get by, my son. 😂
The fact that you felt the need to try to make this into some great trap to lord over the fact that you "made me angry", only suggests you're the one who needs to tell himself stuff to get by. The only thing I'm feeling atm is a need to pee.
As if I didn't know you'd say that. What a loser. Tell yourself you won if you want, I called this at the start.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Good thing to know that you'll keep pretending that you're trolling to mask your laziness and incompetence.
So again, keep trying to distract from the fact that you couldn't refute my point about Kotor 2. It's good comedy for me.
