Darth Maul vs. Darth Vader

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Originally posted by Marco1907
Vader didn't even defeated someone at Maul level before.

Maul didn't even defeated someone at Vader level before.

He is just lacks too much speed to contend with prime Maul.

You assume that this will reduce to a lightsaber duel. Vader will crush him through the Force. Think TUF Vader; now realize he has grown more powerful by RotJ.


I am still waiting the answer ; who is the most powerful foe Vader ever defeated ?

Palpatine. 😉

But really, who is the most powerful foe Maul has ever defeated? Because I saw his battle with Sidious, and it hardly looks like he is "80%" of a more powerful Emperor, you know, like Vader is.

Originally posted by Q99
Let me note: That comic was made after ep 1 but before 2 and 3.

We- including the author- didn't really know how uber Vader was supposed to be yet. We didn't see all his master-killing in the Jedi purge, and we didn't know much about Maul's standing in respect to other sith yet. A lot of people assumed Qui-Gon was really powerful too, which didn't really hold up.

Honestly there's a good reason Disney has declared all of the previous EU (minus TCW) non- canon.

It's because of things like this, there wasn't enough collaboration with the writers of the eu, and the creators of the movies (or should I say creator).

But now there is.

That being said I'm going to pretty much avoid "Machine Vader" Versus battles until he gets some New Official Canon feats. Which he will within the next year.

Originally posted by Marco1907
I hope Rebels will not pump Vader like some stupid EU writers did before in old canon, because Filoni and his crew are very consistent in this matters, they will certainly make Vader consistent with his movie performances.

He will get new feats. In Rebels and with the Sith Lord novel out next year.

Filoni so far has just talked about Vader being really powerful. He seems to respect the character. But don't worry Marco, at some point Maul will return in Rebels too, and he will also get new feats 😉

Originally posted by Marco1907
Vader didn't even defeated someone at Maul level before. He is just lacks too much speed to contend with prime Maul.

I am still waiting the answer ; who is the most powerful foe Vader ever defeated ?

He rather casually ragdolls Galen Marek on Corellia who at this point should be solidly above Shaak Ti. So yes he's demolished Maul level people before.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Filoni so far has just talked about Vader being really powerful. He seems to respect the character. But don't worry Marco, at some point Maul will return in Rebels too, and he will also get new feats 😉

Lol he'll get slain by Vader.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Guys c'mon Maul kicks Vader's ass again, we all know this.

Is this even canon anymore? I mean, I really doubt Maul would ever want to be Sidious' apprentice again. Plus didn't they resurrect him from him death in TPM? Which never happened now.

Originally posted by Marco1907
I am still waiting the answer ; who is the most powerful foe Vader ever defeated ?

Sheev.

What ? Sheev stomped Vader, while Maul gave a good fight to him.

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Slow robot man loses this, c'mon.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
He rather casually ragdolls Galen Marek on Corellia who at this point should be solidly above Shaak Ti. So yes he's demolished Maul level people before.

Starkiller mocked with Vader in a proper duel, he ambushed him there. So... Vader still doesn't have any feat to suggest he can take Maul, get troubled with Old Ben Kenobi, and lost to RotJ Luke etc.

Sidious had Maul and Savage at his mercy with telekinesis from the outset, and still entertained a lightsaber duel. In Marco's video, he resorts to his most potent attack from the outset. You can't possibly take this as evidence in Maul's favor.

Originally posted by Marco1907
What ? Sheev stomped Vader, while Maul gave a good fight to him.

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Slow robot man loses this, c'mon.

You're so desperate you turn toward non-canon sources to support your "argument". Lulz

Darth Vader pretty easily, Maul lost to Obi-Wan in Episode 1

Vader wins in a good fight, and I don't think he'll trash Maul with the Force.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

He will get new feats. In Rebels and with the Sith Lord novel out next year.

Filoni so far has just talked about Vader being really powerful. He seems to respect the character. But don't worry Marco, at some point Maul will return in Rebels too, and he will also get new feats 😉

No I mean of course he will be portrayed as powerful. But just like in Dooku's case (he had a weakness to kinetic & physical attacks) Vader needs to be shown as slower than peak force sensitive beings. Skilled, very high TK, durable, strong but he needs to be slower than likes of Maul, Dooku etc.

Originally posted by DarthChickenMan
Darth Vader pretty easily, Maul lost to Obi-Wan in Episode 1

I can't hear your troll wank... What did you said ? Vader beat Obi-Wan ? I don't remember that though, here Maul trashes Obi-Wan ;

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Is this even canon anymore? I mean, I really doubt Maul would ever want to be Sidious' apprentice again. Plus didn't they resurrect him from him death in TPM? Which never happened now.

None of Legends is canon anymore.

And it's because of s*** like that!

Originally posted by Marco1907
I can't hear your troll wank... What did you said ? Vader beat Obi-Wan ? I don't remember that though, here Maul trashes Obi-Wan ;

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Yes, and that's because he used Dun Moch to unbalance him, which you ignored in your attempts to pass misinformation as facts. In other instances they only fought as equals. Try again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Is this even canon anymore? I mean, I really doubt Maul would ever want to be Sidious' apprentice again. Plus didn't they resurrect him from him death in TPM? Which never happened now.

Vader is featless in new canon now, except Movies. So that is belong to Legends, just like all feats of Vader before.

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Yes, and that's because he used Dun Moch to unbalance him, which you ignored in your attempts to pass misinformation as facts. In other instances they only fought as equals. Try again.

Maul ragdolls ;

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Originally posted by Marco1907
I can't hear your troll wank... What did you said ? Vader beat Obi-Wan ? I don't remember that though, here Maul trashes Obi-Wan ;

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watch?v=aE_CVWMWK74

You were saying?

Obi-Wan got pissed off in that fight, Maul was goading him, and Obi-Wan fell for the bait.

That was PIS,

Maul & Savage already stomped Obi-Wan before.

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Originally posted by Marco1907
Maul ragdolls ;

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Not relevant to a pure saber duel. Try again.