Originally posted by Stoic
Well if you were to take CIS completely off you would have people making claims about the Surfer that he has not shown to be capable of on average. Besides you can't have it both ways. You said from the jump, that the Surfer would not fight out of character. I'm just saying, that he can still fight in character to the best of his ability like any other character can. That's all that I'm saying.
Omfg im gonna have an aneurysm. Full capacity, yet doesn't fight ooc.
Originally posted by carver9
CIS should be off for both.But he is fighting intelligently, fighting to the best of his ability which is OOC.
Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.
Combat rules are pretty clear here.. If Flash could KO someone in a pico second, which never, EVER happens in the comics, then Norrin should fight smart, and to the best of his ability.
The personality thing is the unclear part, but probably implies alignment issues, like whether someone would kill or not, or whether someone's specifically written as stupid (Like Rhino, say, which Norrin certainly isn't written like, as he has numerous examples of using his powers intelligently and effectively in combat.)
Originally posted by cdtm
Combat rules are pretty clear here.. If Flash could KO someone in a pico second, which never, EVER happens in the comics, then Norrin should fight smart, and to the best of his ability.The personality thing is the unclear part, but probably implies alignment issues, like whether someone would kill or not, or whether someone's specifically written as stupid (Like Rhino, say, which Norrin certainly isn't written like, as he has numerous examples of using his powers intelligently and effectively in combat.)
So Surfer and Firelord can beat Superman 10/10?
Originally posted by carver9
If you don't understand that both of those mean the same thing then something is wrong with you.
Pretty much. Then again when a person decides that they want to be difficult, nothings going to stop them from doing just that.
Originally posted by cdtm
Combat rules are pretty clear here.. If Flash could KO someone in a pico second, which never, EVER happens in the comics, then Norrin should fight smart, and to the best of his ability.The personality thing is the unclear part, but probably implies alignment issues, like whether someone would kill or not, or whether someone's specifically written as stupid (Like Rhino, say, which Norrin certainly isn't written like, as he has numerous examples of using his powers intelligently and effectively in combat.)
Correct. Norrin like the Hulk aren't murderers (not sure what's so hard to understand about that?). Betty on the other hand had issues. When she became a red Hulk her sexuality became heightened, as well as her penchant for violence. Look at how she treated Skaar, and he's only about 12 yrs old, if that.
As for using his powers effectively. He would be in a fight that automatically would begin with him being gimped, due to the red Hulk's ability to siphon off his powers, and abilities like Rulk did to Thor in their first meeting. Add to the fact that she was already a solid Trans tier, and what you get is a stomp session. You may want to think that it would take her months to use his powers, but if that were so, Rulk wouldn't have been riding on that board like a boss.
Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer, yeah. Firelord, unsure... He isn't Surfer, and I've never seen him ahow the variety of powers like energy drains, time stops, or high end transmutation..
Firelord is the sun and he controls it on a cosmic level (i think you see where I am going here)...
At least you admit Surfer beats him 10/10 which is still inaccurate.
Originally posted by Stoic
What does this mean exactly? Are you saying that you are denying her the use of her abilities?
I keep repeating myself. Betty fights just like she did during the HOTM arc. She has the same powers she had during the HOTM arc. She has the same mindset she had during the HOTM arc. The only feats that can be used from her are from the HOTM arc. Savvy?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Apparently, there can only be one fan for the Hulk, and they all fight over that title. Heaven forbid they share the title of Fanniest One There Is. Meanwhile, every fight is a fistfight, and strength> all.
It's a good thing that Betty has more than just her fists to rely on then