Originally posted by cdtm
Yep.The point is, even if Carver tries denying Sin straight up takes Hulk, he can't deny he'll make Hulk feel fear. Not if beings who dedicated themselves to eradicating emotion had it forced on them.
It's hard to work up pure anger when you're afraid.
Hulk has overcame such things though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not to mention, pre-Parallax upgrade, Sinestro tanked a planet busting attack:
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Don't get why you posted this.
Originally posted by carver9
😐Don't get why you posted this.
Really?
I posted it because you were using feats of GLs. And I was then showcasing how Sinestro, BEFORE he got Parallax, was already tanking planet busting attacks (which are WBH level - you know, the level where heralds were being melted) whilst they were being fired next to him.
If you want to equate the other GLs to that (bearing in mind Hal was accomplishing his feats using a ring CREATED by Sinestro and LIMITED by Sinestro), then be my guest.
But the point was, Sinestro is more powerful than a GL. Even when he WAS a GL.
So to equate the two, and say A=B, is silly.
Parallax, being a powerful emotional entity, should then be an upgrade on this Sinestro, no?
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has overcame such things though.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Hence why the Void was so effective against the Hulk. He was terrified of him.
But of course, this is a different Hulk, right? And therefore, pointless to bring up, RIGHT?
Just like bringing up GLs is....pointless when discussing New Gods (who aren't Hulk) breaking GLs (who aren't Sinestro...or have Parallax).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Really?I posted it because you were using feats of GLs. And I was then showcasing how Sinestro, BEFORE he got Parallax, was already tanking planet busting attacks (which are WBH level - you know, the level where heralds were being melted) whilst they were being fired next to him.
If you want to equate the other GLs to that (bearing in mind Hal was accomplishing his feats using a ring CREATED by Sinestro and LIMITED by Sinestro), then be my guest.
But the point was, Sinestro is more powerful than a GL. Even when he WAS a GL.
So to equate the two, and say A=B, is silly.
Parallax, being a powerful emotional entity, should then be an upgrade on this Sinestro, no?
So you brought up him withstanding (not tanking) a planet busting attack (that isn't on WBH level) as reference that he will tank Hulk punches? If not, then, again, I don't know why you brought that up. Never said he wasn't durable.
What super strong person has Sinestro defeated? The last fight i remember him in against an elite brick, he was getting worked.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85But of course, this is a different Hulk, right? And therefore, pointless to bring up, RIGHT?
Just like bringing up GLs is....pointless when discussing New Gods (who aren't Hulk) breaking GLs (who aren't Sinestro...or have Parallax).
No. That showing can be used against Hulk since again, Hulk is Hulk, but, he does have resistance fts. Also, it was stated that Void/Sentry is the remedy to Hulk's anger. Sentry is Hulk kryptonite.
Originally posted by carver9
So you brought up him withstanding (not tanking) a planet busting attack (that isn't on WBH level) as reference that he will tank Hulk punches? If not, then, again, I don't know why you brought that up. Never said he wasn't durable.What super strong person has Sinestro defeated? The last fight i remember him in against an elite brick, he was getting worked.
He had no broken bones, no bloodied wounds, some rips in his clothes....and that's it. Most of it was psychological, as he lost Korugar. He cried a bit, then went back onto revenge.
Do you think the other GLs can withstand that? I see I will have to walk you step by step again.
By that logic....
What ring slinger has current Hulk defeated? also, this elite strong man showing....Did he have Parallax?
Originally posted by carver9
No. That showing can be used against Hulk since again, Hulk is Hulk, but, he does have resistance fts. Also, it was stated that Void/Sentry is the remedy to Hulk's anger. Sentry is Hulk kryptonite.
Yeah, because he had every bone broken by the Void. Sentry calms him down, as stated in that scan - what does the Void do?
So yeah. Hulk gets some fear dosed into him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He had no broken bones, no bloodied wounds, some rips in his clothes....and that's it. Most of it was psychological, as he lost Korugar. He cried a bit, then went back onto revenge.Do you think the other GLs can withstand that? I see I will have to walk you step by step again.
By that logic....
What ring slinger has current Hulk defeated? also, this elite strong man showing....Did he have Parallax?
He didn't tank it like you said though. You're using the word TANK wrong.
I don't think all GLS can withstand that but there are GLS that has withstood Black holes and planetary attacks. Doesn't mean that Hulk can't bust their face in.
Hulk has walked through similar. Ripped through Strange Crimson bands...beat up on Quasar. Really doesn't matter tbh. I can provide proof of similar beings mud stomping Sinestro "without plot, sad thing is, you can't provide examples of similar beings defeating Hulk.
The scans you've shown is Sinestro going physical with his opponent...that would get him killed here.
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't tank it like you said though. You're using the word TANK wrong.I don't think all GLS can withstand that but there are GLS that has withstood Black holes and planetary attacks. Doesn't mean that Hulk can't bust their face in.
Hulk has walked through similar. Ripped through Strange Crimson bands...beat up on Quasar. Really doesn't matter tbh. I can provide proof of similar beings mud stomping Sinestro "without plot, sad thing is, you can't provide examples of similar beings defeating Hulk.
The scans you've shown is Sinestro going physical with his opponent...that would get him killed here.
So....was he hurt by it? And if so, what were his injuries?
IOW, GLs =/= Sinestro. So if you are not going to share out all their feats, why cherry pick? Either they are the same, in whcih case, you are correct and I apologise, and you are fre to use the New God showings for Sinestro....or they aren't. Which you have just admitted. So the point still stands. Showings of the GLs against the New Gods is pointless, as this is Sinestro with Parallax vs Hulk.
Crimson Bands =/= Sinestro with Parallax. Quasar =/=Sinestro with Parallax. Damn you are terrible at this.
Because Volthoom was the First Lantern, and was drawing on the emotions of the ringwielders. Hence, you need to get physical. Can Hulk drain the emotions of a ringwielder? Do you even know who/what Volthoom was?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So....was he hurt by it? And if so, what were his injuries?IOW, GLs =/= Sinestro. So if you are not going to share out all their feats, why cherry pick? Either they are the same, in whcih case, you are correct and I apologise, and you are fre to use the New God showings for Sinestro....or they aren't. Which you have just admitted. So the point still stands. Showings of the GLs against the New Gods is pointless, as this is Sinestro with Parallax vs Hulk.
Crimson Bands =/= Sinestro with Parallax. Quasar =/=Sinestro with Parallax. Damn you are terrible at this.
Because Volthoom was the First Lantern, and was drawing on the emotions of the ringwielders. Hence, you need to get physical. Can Hulk drain the emotions of a ringwielder? Do you even know who/what Volthoom was?
First answer this...what is your definition of 'tanking' something?
Why are you still bringing up GLs? When was the last time I even brought up a GL? What I'm asking you is, who is the toughest person Sinestro took down? A physical brick other than the ones he has had trouble with.
The showings against the New Gods isn't pointless.
The people I've named constructs/ bands were ripped apart. Hulk has also ripped through shielding that was classified as being powerful enough to hold back the Celestial race. That poops on any construct yow boy can conjure.
I don't care about drawing emotions. What I'm asking you is, how strong was this guy? Don't get why people don't understand that just because you are a high energy wielder doesn't mean you are out wrestling Superman and Hulk. That's like me saying Kyle or Hal is stronger physically than Supergirl because of their planetary containing showings. If we are not on the same page here with the understanding of posts...maybe we need to stop.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, btw, the scans I showed of Sinestro getting physical with his opponent?This is what his opponent can do:
Gotcha. And Hulk out muscled a guy that created a sun with a thought and was about to warp reality. Energy wielders = strength. Hulk just recently nearly overpowered a guy that was tearing away the fabric of space time. The same guy that was bossing around a Phoenix and IG wielder.
Gotcha. Like using that style of debate. Hulk still wins.
Originally posted by carver9
First answer this...what is your definition of 'tanking' something?Why are you still bringing up GLs? When was the last time I even brought up a GL? What I'm asking you is, who is the toughest person Sinestro took down? A physical brick other than the ones he has had trouble with.
The showings against the New Gods isn't pointless.
The people I've named constructs/ bands were ripped apart. Hulk has also ripped through shielding that was classified as being powerful enough to hold back the Celestial race. That poops on any construct yow boy can conjure.
I don't care about drawing emotions. What I'm asking you is, how strong was this guy? Don't get why people don't understand that just because you are a high energy wielder doesn't mean you are out wrestling Superman and Hulk. That's like me saying Kyle or Hal is stronger physically than Supergirl because of their planetary containing showings. If we are not on the same page here with the understanding of posts...maybe we need to stop.
1st question - when there is no significant damage. You wail on that person (Thor vs Thanos, or BB vs Thanos) and that person takes it, and is able to deal damage back at you without relying on a HF. Sometimes, you can say 'he tanked it with a smile', but a smile is not necessary.
2. I'm bringing them up - because YOU ARE STILL BRINGING UP THEIR SHOWINGS AGAINST THE NEW GODS. In your very next paragraph, even.
3. Volthoom was remaking the entire universe. Altering reality on a universal scale.
And you are asking for strength feats? That's like saying TOAA has no lifting feats. Living Tribunal has none. The Presence has no lifting feats etc etc. Therefore, as Batman has more strength feats, Batman knocks the Presence out. Is that what you're really doing? Asking how strong a reality manipulator on a universal scale is????
