Hulk vs Sinestro

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha. And Hulk out muscled a guy that created a sun with a thought and was about to warp reality. Energy wielders = strength. Hulk just recently nearly overpowered a guy that was tearing away the fabric of space time. The same guy that was bossing around a Phoenix and IG wielder.

Gotcha. Like using that style of debate. Hulk still wins.

Lol. Created a sun with a thought, woop de doo.........

You're comparing remaking the entire universe as the same as creating a sun???

Hell, Constantine has created suns before.....

FFS.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

And you are asking for strength feats? That's like saying TOAA has no lifting feats. Living Tribunal has none. The Presence has no lifting feats etc etc. Therefore, as Batman has more strength feats, Batman knocks the Presence out. Is that what you're really doing? Asking how strong a reality manipulator on a universal scale is????

That is what he is saying.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Created a sun with a thought, woop de doo.........

You're comparing remaking the entire universe as the same as creating a sun???

Hell, Constantine has created suns before.....

FFS.

So Constantine is more powerful than Franklin Richards? The person I'm talking about had the complete power of Franklin Richards, Nate Grey, Professor X, and Magneto.

Originally posted by carver9
So Constantine is more powerful than Franklin Richards? The person I'm talking about had the complete power of Franklin Richards, Nate Grey, Professor X, and Magneto.

Erm...no,

I'm saying creating a sun ain't all that, relative to....

...remaking the universe, which is more impressive.

Are you really arguing against that? How many suns/stars do you think are in the universe?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1st question - when there is no significant damage. You wail on that person (Thor vs Thanos, or BB vs Thanos) and that person takes it, and is able to deal damage back at you without relying on a HF. Sometimes, you can say 'he tanked it with a smile', but a smile is not necessary.

2. I'm bringing them up - because YOU ARE STILL BRINGING UP THEIR SHOWINGS AGAINST THE NEW GODS. In your very next paragraph, even.

3. Volthoom was remaking the entire universe. Altering reality on a universal scale.

And you are asking for strength feats? That's like saying TOAA has no lifting feats. Living Tribunal has none. The Presence has no lifting feats etc etc. Therefore, as Batman has more strength feats, Batman knocks the Presence out. Is that what you're really doing? Asking how strong a reality manipulator on a universal scale is????

He endured it, not tanked it. He did not tank that planetary attack.

I didn't bring up anything. You brought them up in the post I commented on which resulted in a response.

Gotcha. Still doesn't take away from what I said. Hulk overpowering someone who possessed Abstract powers. Hulk powers surprising the most powerful being In comics (Beyonder).

My question is a simple one. Who.has.Sinestro.beaten.that.is.a.physical.elite? You see, simple question. The last fight he got into with an elite Brick, he was getting crushed and toyed with. Convince me, show me his fight against an elite brick because until I see something different, people like Hulk, Doomsday, Superman, Gladiator, Wonder Woman, Thor, would split his wig.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm...no,

I'm saying creating a sun ain't all that, relative to....

...remaking the universe, which is more impressive.

Are you really arguing against that? How many suns/stars do you think are in the universe?

And what I'm saying is, Hulk ripped a person apart that was feeding off of an abstract. I agree with your universe (did he even create one or was that an image in his hand) vs a sun but that goes against nothing I've said.

Originally posted by carver9
And what I'm saying is, Hulk ripped a person apart that was feeding off of an abstract. I agree with your universe (did he even create one or was that an image in his hand) vs a sun but that goes against nothing I've said.

Lol. Question - did you read the arc. Do you know who Volthoom was, and what he could do? Even if you didn't, you can see White Lantern Kyle saying that history was being undone, the life web was being taken apart, it was ALL unravelling.

Are you still asking for his strength feat?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Question - did you read the arc. Do you know who Volthoom was, and what he could do? Even if you didn't, you can see White Lantern Kyle saying that history was being undone, the life web was being taken apart, it was ALL unravelling.

Are you still asking for his strength feat?

Read some of it. So what you're saying is, what he did was more of an energy showing? What made you post the scan if I may ask? You show Sinestro ripping his heart out, then you post a scan of an image of a universe in his hand. Now you're saying he was rewriting the universe. All nice and dandy but I don't get it. What was the point of posting that? What relevance did it have for what I was asking?

dur

Originally posted by carver9
Read some of it. So what you're saying is, what he did was more of an energy showing? What made you post the scan if I may ask? You show Sinestro ripping his heart out, then you post a scan of an image of a universe in his hand. Now you're saying he was rewriting the universe. All nice and dandy but I don't get it. What was the point of posting that? What relevance did it have for what I was asking?

It's one of those where I have to lead you by the hand, I see.

Fear not, little carver, as we embark on this journey! Remember to read this post several times, slowly, to understand what I'm trying to say.

By saying you read some of it = you saw some mention of it in the ownage thread?

I will now walk you through it.

You first dismissed Volthoom. Then said look at Sinestro, getting up close and personal - if he tries that against Hulk, he'd die.

Had you read the comic, you'd have seen that firing from long distance (i.e. the entire spectrum, not just the GLs, but also the Reds/Sinestro Corps/Indigo Tribe/Star Sapphires/Blue Lanterns were firing, with John Stewart coordinating and using Mogo as a lens thingy.

IOW, long distance blasts did not work. Moreover, Volthoom is not Hulk; he was strengthened by the emotional spectrum.

SO, you need to get up close and personal. THAT is why Sinestro was up in his face.

Hence, me posting the scan of him ripping the heart out.

Now, why is ripping his heart out so impressive? He DID hurt Volthoom - hence the ARRRRRGH sound. He obviously does not need a heart - he was still talking afterwards.

THAT is why I posted the scan of him remaking the universe. As confirmed by WL Kyle, who is connected to the universe. He grabbed, then ripped the heart out of a universal-level reality warper. And this isn't mere hyperbole either - he was actually remaking reality (and history as well).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's one of those where I have to lead you by the hand, I see.

Fear not, little carver, as we embark on this journey! Remember to read this post several times, slowly, to understand what I'm trying to say.

By saying you read some of it = you saw some mention of it in the ownage thread?

I will now walk you through it.

You first dismissed Volthoom. Then said look at Sinestro, getting up close and personal - if he tries that against Hulk, he'd die.

Had you read the comic, you'd have seen that firing from long distance (i.e. the entire spectrum, not just the GLs, but also the Reds/Sinestro Corps/Indigo Tribe/Star Sapphires/Blue Lanterns were firing, with John Stewart coordinating and using Mogo as a lens thingy.

IOW, long distance blasts did not work. Moreover, Volthoom is not Hulk; he was strengthened by the emotional spectrum.

SO, you need to get up close and personal. THAT is why Sinestro was up in his face.

Hence, me posting the scan of him ripping the heart out.

Now, why is ripping his heart out so impressive? He DID hurt Volthoom - hence the ARRRRRGH sound. He obviously does not need a heart - he was still talking afterwards.

THAT is why I posted the scan of him remaking the universe. As confirmed by WL Kyle, who is connected to the universe. He grabbed, then ripped the heart out of a universal-level reality warper. And this isn't mere hyperbole either - he was actually remaking reality (and history as well).

No, not the ownage thread my friend. I own the comic and never took the time to read it since GLs sucks.

Aaaaahhhhh, so what you're saying is, since this guy withstood energy attacks from all of these people, Sinestro ripping his heart out is impressive and it means that he would rip Hulk heart out? Or are you trying to imply that Sinestro is universal? Let me know.

What other fts does Sinestro have outside of fight GL like characters? Example, some of the main GLS does amazing against other high tier Lantern beings which would include that fancy Krono buster, etc... but when they fight high tier beings physical beings, it doesn't look so one sided, or better words for it, they don't win...ie, Black Mary outright stomping one of the premier Lanterns or Sinestro getting curbed by Mongul (without plot) or Black Adam running through Alan Scott. Not naming all of their brick showings but it isn't great. Hell, Lantern with the Ion stored in him was getting worked by an Imperiex Probe. With that said, back to what I was asking. What other fights do you have with Sinestro. Ok, you've done a good job proving he can beat Lantern like characters. If someone like Superman ran in his face, nothing like that would happen. Do you agree or not agree?

Oh wow yeah you missed my point lol.

I'm saying, long distance energy attacks were tried, and failed. Hence, Sinestro getting physical. Otherwise, if he kept his distance, Hulk dies.

What other showings ? Moot. Parallax, bro. Stop bringing GL fights up!!!!

Shall I bring up Red She hulks fights? A bomb? She Hulk? No. That's useless.

Why are you bringing up Alan Scott, Kyle Ion etc?

If he keeps bringing up low showings of other green lanterns you have every right to bring up she hulk low feats. That's carver logic

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shall I bring up Red She hulks fights? A bomb? She Hulk? No. That's useless.

Why are you bringing up Alan Scott, Kyle Ion etc?

I'm using them as examples. The examples was, GLs does amazing against one another like Hulk's does good against each other, Supers, etc... it's when they face beings that doesn't possess the same powers they have, thats when things change. When we get a perspective of how a fight would go between Hulk vs someone with versatility, or Sinestro vs a physical power house, or Superman vs an energy drainer. This is what i am asking you for. Don't get why you can't grasp this.

Originally posted by -K-M-
If he keeps bringing up low showings of other green lanterns you have every right to bring up she hulk low feats. That's carver logic

Read my posts and tell me where I brought up any low showings. Read it. Me asking him a question isn't me bringing up low fts.

Originally posted by carver9
Read my posts and tell me where I brought up any low showings. Read it. Me asking him a question isn't me bringing up low fts.

Your bringing up instances of where constructs of unrelated green lanterns have failed as a means to use as a low showing for sinestro. You are cherry picking unrelated feats, but if you do that I guess Kyle holding back the Big Bang can be used for sinestro using your logic.

You also referenced Alan Scott. Do you know who he is? He's not connected to the corps and gains his abilities from a completely different power source. Nor did his fight with adam was at the peak of his powers.

So I'm allowed to bring up She Hulk against energy wielders, just 'as an example', right?

Again, moot as Sinestro has Parallax. Its like me asking you for Doc Green against energy drainers....and then bringing up She hulk vs Silver Surfer or something. You'd be throwing a fit.

But I see that you're just going to ignore his showings against a planet buster, a universal reality warper...because he's in a Lantern book, and is a Lantern type enemy. Lol. At least you have moves your phrasing on from asking for strength feats from said reality warper. Maybe you should make a Batman vs the Presence thread, as the Presence has fewer feats.

Shall I limit you to not using any showings from the Hulk books?

Star brand waved him away with a gesture. Sinestro does the same.

So Hal Jordan or Kyle rayner feats when possessed by parallax are fair game for sinestro as well?

Parallax is Parallax, I'm sure carver has no issue with it.