Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Sidious likely would have killed Dooku later on.Filoni explained the whole Pre-Tpm Dooku thing as just something that wasn't really planned. Dooku as a Jedi listened to Sifo-Dyas who had visions of the Sith and this clone army, so they went on the hunt for Sidious. Obviously Dooku found Sidious (with good intentions initially) but Sidious swayed him to the dark side and got him to tell eveything about Sifo Dyas' s visions, and then got him to kill Sifo Dyas under a different name, and then pretend to be him.
So the Dooku thing was nothing Sidious planned from day 1. It's just something that stumbled on him. But in any case we know Maul knew all about the Clone Wars grand plans.
The Eu wasn't all just "Maul was just an assassin and never meant to be a permanent Sith".
Read TPM novel. Sidious was clearly upset at the loss of Maul. Read any of the Maul novels, and Maul was clearly seen as a true Sith by Sidious. A trainee he put way too much work into to just be a mere assassin.
So the Legends Eu wad not clear cut on this matter at all. But in any case Legends had a hierarchy where Lucas's statements came first. So in either case, in the old or new canon, ILS is wrong.
If you read this whole thread ILS' s counter argument comes down to "Well I completely ignore anything Lucas says because he's not contributed anything significant to Maul" LOL
There's nothing to indicate Sidious would have killed Dooku, given his political savvy and connections.
I never said Sidious planned on turning Dooku to the dark side from day one. I said he likely would have eventually replaced Maul with Dooku once he recruited him to his cause, considering Dooku was more helpful to the grand plan than Maul would have ever been. I also never said Maul wasn't aware of Sidious's plans; I actually acknowledged the fact that he was, just that his knowledge was likely limited as he most likely didn't know the role Dooku played, or about the mission at all, which was the starting point of the clones creation.
You're also ignoring what Lucas stated, so you're doing the same exact thing you're excusing ILS of doing. Lucas made it clear that neither Maul nor Dooku had the potential to surpass Sidious. That's not to say Maul wasn't being trained as a successor, seeing as Sidious didn't know the path to immortality, so he'd picked and trained someone powerful enough to carry on his legacy, but nothing Filoni stated suggests that Maul had what it took to be a true successor--an equal, and TCW series didn't depict him as such either, especially considering that after Talzin's defeat, he didn't even acknowledge Maul as being a threat to him. Before you say it's because his army was shattered, well, they were shattered by the time Sidious was duking it out with Talzin, but he didn't stop until Talzin was destroyed, because Talzin had the power and potential to be a threat.
No, the EU didn't portray Maul as anything more than a valuable assassin, who would have been useful in taking out jedi. He was never portrayed as having the intellect to help Sidious conduct a galaxy wide conflict. The EU, for the most part, depicted Maul as an extremely intelligent being when it comes to combat, not the mastermind schemer TCW depicted him as being. However, even in new canon, Maul wasn't as important to Sidious's plans as Dooku was, hence why he left him for dead and was satisfied with Dooku. Everything in the source material, from the series to SOD, made it clear that Sidious chose what benefited him at the time. That was basically the theme of SOD regarding Talzin's and especially Maul's hatred for him. That's all I'm saying. But, yes, Sidious was originally training Maul to be a master mind schemer to possibly replace him.