Mindless: simple or repetitive as to be performed automatically without thought.
Being "nothing but" or "just" an assassin implies he cannot do anything else, and is only trained to do that one sect of skills.
This is wrong because Darth Maul was trained also to be a "scheming mastermind" as well. I accept your concession... loser.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66LMFAO
[b]Mindless: simple or repetitive as to be performed automatically without thought.
Being "nothing but" or "just" an assassin implies he cannot do anything else, and is only trained to do that one sect of skills.
This is wrong because Darth Maul was trained also to be a "scheming mastermind" as well. I accept your concession... loser. [/B]
If I wanted to call him a mindless assassin, I would have called him a mindless assassin. I said he was "nothing but" an assassin, as in, that's all he did. Assassinated people. He didn't contribute to the Grand Plan, was never intended to surpass Sidious and was only ever used as a killer.
You're confusing what I'm saying. When I say Maul is "just an assassin", I'm talking about his.. "occupation", if you can call it that. I'm not talking about what he can do or what he's good at. You're the one bringing those elements into the debate.
And on that note, Maul is obviously not mindless and I never implied as such. He was only an assassin, sure, but he's damn good at his job, and he's good at more things than just killing people. But in terms of his contribution to the Sith Order, and his status (or lack thereof) in Bane's lineage, all he was, was an assassin.
Seeing you completely change your stance in the debate without saying your changing your stance is more satisfactory then you conceding, to be honest.
You went from all he can do is kill people to "he's good at more things than just killing people." This is funny as **** to be honest. Might put this in my profile. :mmm:
The reason Maul didn't get high level sith training (sith lightning, sorcery, illusions, midi-cholorian manipulation etc.) because that was high level sith education, first you can teach to your apprentice tactical mind, infiltration, how to fight, how to use lightsaber, basic force knowledge, durability, H2H combat, basic dark side knowledge etc. Maul's training was completed with these, he only lacks high level sith training, and that just because he step out of the game too early, not because Sidious would never teach him.
Remember the time when Sidious saved Plagueis from assasination, because Sidious still neeeded to learn somethings from Plagueis, and that Sidious was older than TPM Maul.
I really wonder that Talzin give to Maul about knowledge of dathomir magicks or not, Maul could use these magicks for improving his level more imo.
Originally posted by HaHa Hannibal
Ant losing to ILS tbh
No, because you are a Maul hater as well as uber troll.
Originally posted by HaHa Hannibal
Ant losing to ILS tbh
You kidding me? ILS keeps repeating the same s***. "Maul was just an expendable assassin"
What's his source? Some outdated Legends sh** totally contradicted by Lucas, TCW and even the Official site.
A mere assassin isn't trained to be a scheming master mind. Trying to make those things fit is clearly grasping for straws.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66I didn't ever change my stance, you just misinterpreted what I said and dragged me into arguing semantics. I was referring to Maul's status in the Rules of Two/Sith Order the whole time, you're the one who brought his tactical mind into the debate, which has **** all to do with what we were discussing - which is if he was ever going to surpass Sidious, was ever intended to, if he was powerful enough to ect.
Seeing you completely change your stance in the debate without saying your changing your stance is more satisfactory then you conceding, to be honest.
You went from all he can do is kill people to "he's good at more things than just killing people." This is funny as **** to be honest. Might put this in my profile. :mmm:
You kidding me? ILS keeps repeating the same s***. "Maul was just an expendable assassin"Hurrrr try reading my posts. You still haven't provided a single "Canon" source for Maul being intended to surpass Sidious, so as far as I'm concerned you're the one going in circles. Try again.What's his source? Some outdated Legends sh** totally contradicted by Lucas, TCW and even the Official site.
A mere assassin isn't trained to be a scheming master mind. Trying to make those things fit is clearly grasping for straws.
And the best part is, you cite a piece of evidence from Legends Canon to round off your post. Brilliant. Double standards at their finest. And being a "scheming mastermind" alone has **** all to do with Maul's apprenticeship to Sidious. That could be in reference to his tactical skills, which it more than likely is, since that is a prominent element of his character - not surpassing Sidious.