SS4 Gogeta va All

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
[B]Some blood for amusement purposes does not equal being hurt.

Actually, it does, in the purely technical sense, and considering we are talking about the technicalities on whether or not he can be hurt, technicalities are what matter.

It's bleeding. Not even just a slapstick hit, there's blood. There's a small rip or cut in skin.

If one is arguing total immunity, then, yes, even functionally irrelevant damage counts.

The bending over backwards to not-count a hit that caused blood flow is not convincing.

Originally posted by Q99
Actually, it does, in the purely technical sense, and considering we are talking about the technicalities on whether or not he can be hurt, technicalities are what matter.

It's bleeding. Not even just a slapstick hit, there's blood. There's a small rip or cut in skin.

If one is arguing total immunity, then, yes, even functionally irrelevant damage counts.

The bending over backwards to not-count a hit that caused blood flow is not convincing.

So then glass scratching SS4 Goku hurt him as well. 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So then glass scratching SS4 Goku hurt him as well. 😆

Sure. It won't do any real damage unless it's backed by power equal to ki level a gajillion, but he is not immune to physical stuff.

Did anyone ever claim that Gogeta absolutely could not be harmed by physical non-ki stuff? Not that I can recall.

Have none of you ever read a shounen fight with this scenario?

"Ah ha, my defense is invincible! I cannot even be hurt by your attacks!"

*Protagonist does something seemingly inconsequential that causes a scuff, scratch, or similar, but no real damage*

"See, I told you I- URK!"

"Ah ha, while you said you were invincible, that scratched told me your defense wasn't as absolute as you claimed. You were overconfident and that is why you lost."

Or even just, "Your was strong, but my attack was stronger still."

We have direct 100% confirmed proof that it is not 100% immunity. Any claims of 100% immunity therefore do not hold up.

Bills sat there and did nothing and Vegeta went full on ape shit.

In return. He flicked him and KO'd him.

While Gohan took on a real beating and didn't even get KO'd

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Bills sat there and did nothing and Vegeta went full on ape shit.

In return. He flicked him and KO'd him.

While Gohan took on a real beating and didn't even get KO'd

What does that have to do with anything?

The point is that Bills still took damage, meaning he can be hurt by Vegeta level ki. Gogeta, let alone GT SSJ4 tier, let alone SSJ4 Gogeta, could kill him.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What does that have to do with anything?

The point is that Bills still took damage, meaning he can be hurt by Vegeta level ki. Gogeta, let alone GT SSJ4 tier, let alone SSJ4 Gogeta, could kill him.

He took as much damage as glass cutting SS4 Goku, quit being a drama queen about a litte blood. Vegeta got one shotted..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He took as much damage as glass cutting SS4 Goku, quit being a drama queen about a litte blood. Vegeta got one shotted..

What does that have to do with anything?

Glass > SSJ4 Goku >>>>>> Bills > Vegeta, if that's how you wanna put it.

PIS doesn't count though, since Goku in GT also tanked universe busting attacks in base form. That's an outlier, and doesn't count, unless you think Krillin hurting SSJ Goku with a rock did too, making Bills still a lot weaker than SSJ4. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What does that have to do with anything?

Glass > SSJ4 Goku >>>>>> Bills > Vegeta, if that's how you wanna put it.

PIS doesn't count though, since Goku in GT also tanked universe busting attacks in base form. That's an outlier, and doesn't count, unless you think Krillin hurting SSJ Goku with a rock did too, making Bills still a lot weaker than SSJ4. 👆

You are a complete drama queen about a little blood for laughs. When you have your first menstral cycle you might not be such of a pussy about a little blood.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You are a complete drama queen about a little blood for laughs. When you have your first menstral cycle you might not be such of a pussy about a little blood.

Someone sounds angry.

Again, tell me it doesn't hurt when you get punched so hard, blood comes out of your mouth. If you're bleeding from an attack, it hurt you. The end.

What aren't you getting here?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Someone sounds angry.

Again, tell me it doesn't hurt when you get punched so hard, blood comes out of your mouth. If you're bleeding from an attack, it hurt you. The end.

What aren't you getting here?

You make it seem like he was gushing blood and oozing all over the place. Ive bit my lip and made it bleed about that much Bills did, what vegeta did to him was like a papercut and then he got one shoted worse then SS3 Goku.

He sure as hell didn't one Goku after his transformation.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You make it seem like he was gushing blood and oozing all over the place. Ive bit my lip and made it bleed about that much Bills did, what vegeta did to him was like a papercut and then he got one shoted worse then SS3 Goku.

He sure as hell didn't one Goku after his transformation.

Okay, and imagine getting a thousand, or a million paper cuts at once. That would kill you. That's the equivalent of Vegetto being a million times stronger than Vegeta, which he is. What was a "paper-cut" to Bills, is now being hacked to death with a machete. Sure he did get one-shotted worse than Goku after that, he was already reverted to base form, and had used all his ki. Just like how he got one-shotted by Cell after using all his ki in a kick and a final flash.

Just curious, are your parents also cousins? Because that would make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Okay, and imagine getting a thousand, or a million paper cuts at once. That would kill you. That's the equivalent of Vegetto being a million times stronger than Vegeta, which he is. What was a "paper-cut" to Bills, is now being hacked to death with a machete. Sure he did get one-shotted worse than Goku after that, he was already reverted to base form, and had used all his ki. Just like how he got one-shotted by Cell after using all his ki in a kick and a final flash.

Just curious, are your parents also cousins? Because that would make a lot of sense.

Wrong, Bills laughed and one shotted Vegeta worse then he did SS3 and Gohan.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Wrong, Bills laughed and one shotted Vegeta worse then he did SS3 and Gohan.

lol, nice counter. 👆

You're still wrong, btw.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
lol, nice counter. 👆

You're still wrong, btw.

Actually everyone here told you that you were wrong.

Forum>your opinion

Enough of the back & forth.

Back to topic, without the insults.

Now.

Originally posted by Impediment
Enough of the back & forth.

Back to topic, without the insults.

Now.

Everyone here has told him he is wrong and just keeps going on and on, what else are we supposed to do?

SSJGGogeta is wrong.

It was said many times during the movie normal ki can not hurt gods. Vegeta is no different. The "blood" was only there to online vegeta's shining moment. Nothing more.

So we ignore feats in favor of hyperbole?

hyperbole?

It was stated multiple times from different characters...

Stated by many doesn't mean it wasn't hyberbole.