SS4 Gogeta va All

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Bills rage stomps Vegetto.

Vegetto would do much better than Vegeta, who bloodied Bills.

Originally posted by juggerman
Vegetto would do much better than Vegeta, who bloodied Bills.

if by bloodied you mean 3 specks of blood then maybe

Originally posted by yungz22
if by bloodied you mean 3 specks of blood then maybe

By "bloodied" I mean "made to bleed" which is exactly what occured

He might do better initially until bills quits playing around and one shots him like he did Gotenks.

Vegetto is well beyond Gotenks. And given that both Vegeta and Goku are stronger than they were in the Buu Saga, I highly doubt Vegetto would go down so easily

he would def do better than vegeta but as soon as bills gets serious its over....remember goku himself said fusion wouldnt work

Goku also couldn't sense Bills' ki. So how exactly could he know how much it would have taken when he made that statement?

Originally posted by juggerman
Goku also couldn't sense Bills' ki. So how exactly could he know how much it would have taken when he made that statement?

he fought him thats all it takes he gauged how much stronger bills was off of that simple

Originally posted by yungz22
he fought him thats all it takes he gauged how much stronger bills was off of that simple

That doesn't make sense tho. He had no idea how much Bills was holding back. The only time he was able to tell how powerful an opponent may be was by ki sensing. And even then he has been wrong in the past. Goku is hardly infallible.

Originally posted by juggerman
That doesn't make sense tho. He had no idea how much Bills was holding back. The only time he was able to tell how powerful an opponent may be was by ki sensing. And even then he has been wrong in the past. Goku is hardly infallible.

dude if your a full power ssj3 and your opponent beats you in two its pretty safe to say that you know what wont work.

vegeto is goku's strongest form that he has ever taken he knows how strong it is.

if he says it wouldnt work then it wouldnt work. He's never been wrong about who can beat who

Goku said fusion would not work.

Bills would wreck Gogeta or Vegetto, this isn't even a fair fight.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Goku said fusion would not work.

Bills would wreck Gogeta or Vegetto, this isn't even a fair fight.

Originally posted by yungz22
dude if your a full power ssj3 and your opponent beats you in two its pretty safe to say that you know what wont work.

vegeto is goku's strongest form that he has ever taken he knows how strong it is.

if he says it wouldnt work then it wouldnt work. He's never been wrong about who can beat who

Base Vegetto would beat SSJ3 Goku with one hit so again unless Goku could actually sense how powerful Bills was, he would have no idea what it would take to beat him

He's been wrong before. Do you need examples?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Goku said fusion would not work.

Bills would wreck Gogeta or Vegetto, this isn't even a fair fight.

Based off of what tho? If he could actually sense Bills power then you'd have a point. But since he couldn't, he has nothing to base this on

Originally posted by juggerman
Based off of what tho? If he could actually sense Bills power then you'd have a point. But since he couldn't, he has nothing to base this on

Just because he could not sense his power does not mean Goku is dumb, he knows when he is outclasses regardless of what he senses..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Just because he could not sense his power does not mean Goku is dumb, he knows when he is outclasses regardless of what he senses..

Yes he knew he was outclassed but he couldn't know by how much. That's my point

Goku and other made plenty of statements showing they knew how powerful Beerus was.

He even said Beerus's power was not reachable by normal training. No way in hell Vegetto would even stand a chance. It is confirmed again when Goku becomes a god.

Originally posted by juggerman
Yes he knew he was outclassed but he couldn't know by how much. That's my point

At the beginning of the movie King Kai said he should not be ****ed with at all. Thats how he knew the fusion would not matter. He knew he had to become a god to deal with him on any sort of level.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Goku and other made plenty of statements showing they knew how powerful Beerus was.

He even said Beerus's power was not reachable by normal training. No way in hell Vegetto would even stand a chance. It is confirmed again when Goku becomes a god.

But they didn't. How could they when they could not feel it?

I didn't realise Vegetto is a form reachable by normal training. Also, once again, how would he know when he had absolutely no way of knowing how powerful Beerus was?