Hi all i been reading the matrix posts and some of the stuff and ideas put in would be great made into a film.. I have seen the film 5 times now and i think the story from the machines angle has now been opened up so that them dont even no wot is going to happen ie the Oracle and the Architect because..
1 The oracle said the path of the one would end at the source.. and more or less the Architect did too, if he went in the door the other Neo`s did. But he never so how can them say the matrix would crash if its never been done before all the others went to the source this time its different..
2 (ENTER THE MATRIX THE GAME) on another forum i found a post about apart of the game. When the oracle is talking to niobe (and this has taken part after reloaded by the way) wot makes me think is could be spot on is the fact the oracle, well the women playing her died in the making of the 2 films and replacing her was a option so read and enjoy.. After reading this i think zion is not apart of the matrix and NEO has total control of his mind i can see him being able to go in and out of the matrix without being plugged in etc..
http://www.moviexplosion.com/niobe.html
any faults with wot i have put plzzz write to let me no i am hooked..
I think that Smith is going to be a big part in the destruction of the Matrix. Just as big as Neo. Looking at the trailer for revolutions it looks like Smith has taken over the entire matrix, duplicated himself using everyone like a virus taking over the system.
Smith and Neo are going to be the most powerful beings in the whole thing come Revoultions and they'll fight it out for control over everything.
Also from the preview you can see that Smith can fly in part 3, that right there shows how much he and Neo are going to evolve.
And it started in reloaded with Smith jumping into real world and Neo stopping sentinels.
wow, of all the guesing we have all done no one has come up with what it appears the answer is going to be. Neo being trapped between the two worlds, perhaps the big battle between smith and Neo that we see in the trailer takes place as the two of them are in a coma "between both worlds". Neo can handle smith pretty easily even when there is multiple smiths, but now that smith has escaped the matrix in Bane, maybe he takes on more of the traits of Neo, or atleast the portion of the Smith program that is in bane, hence what appears to be a much more even battle between the two in the trailer. the future is probably going to revolve around that battle as apposed to smith being just a stumbling block along the way as he was in reloaded.
they are fighting each other and its seems that its going to be great they both seems to have same powers which is going to be kick ass
today i saw the matrix again and i noticed that smith said everythings going like before which might mean that smiths have been in the other matrixes before which seems to me to be very interesting also i do belive that persephone is the mother of the matrix not the oracle think about it
Smith tells Neo, that when he was destroyed, something was deleted, overwitten or changed. I saw that to mean, that the Smith-program was suddenly given a choice not to be deleted (return to the source). Which of course raises the question: What was Smith doing outside the door to the Architect?
I believe Smith has, ironically, become a virus, like he accused humans of being in M1. And he threatens the Matrix as much as Neo does. He can keep on infecting the programs of the Matrix (both agents, rebels and still sleeping humans) until there is nothing left. Maybe the Oracle has foreseen that as well, which is why she tells Neo that “they” (humans and machines) can only survive if they work together.
Smith in M1 at knows, that there was an attempt at building a perfect world which the human mind rejected. He may very well know, that the matrix has looped six times now. Some of the programs we meet (for example the Merovingian) have been there through all the loops, so why not Smith? Oh, and… since exiled programs seem to visit the Merovingian who collects outdated software… Can we be sure he and Smith haven’t met?
As for the matrix-within-matrix theory. It is not needed to explain Neo being able to stop the Sentinels, without reverting to metaphysics.
The link posted above is a spoiler. Although not really, and it's a great one.
As for discussing endlessly? Sure, we have another 158 days to do so 🙂
Have you noticed that NEO has the same physical identity throughout all levels (matrix, out of matrix, meeting with architect)? This implies that he is the ONE. The computer versions all have different physical identities (Agents, agent smith, oracle, architect, bad guy in "out of matrix"😉.... just a thought...
Another note... At the end of the movie, NEO mentions that: THE ONE WAS NEVER MEANT TO END THE WAR... meaning they will somehow join together (By the way, I believe this is how he gets his "new" powers in the "real world"... it's an expansion in awareness/consciousness) The oracle even says something between those lines: THE ONLY WAY I SEE OUT OF THIS IS BY JOINING TOGETHER... NEO even says something about this to the chacellor: SO HUMANS NEED ROBOTS AND ROBOTS NEED HUMANS; GOOD POINT...
To emphasize what I'm trying to say... if the bioelectrical machines need electricity.... and if they get if from humans... then by killing humans, they would not have enough energy, therefore they would also die.
I believe that LOVE is the answer to all questions. NEO has that piece of code; the machines do not. That's why the machines don't see any reasons why they would live with humans (also why the MerilVengian doesn't see any reason why he would give up the Key Maker... also why he and Percephone don't "connect" with each other... she has the "love" code but he doesn't. All of this results in causing "failures" in the matrix, and in the real world. NEO bases all of his decisions on LOVE, that's why he's the ONE. That's why he can feel everything in every level of existence.
I truly hope you understand this...
same her all of us have pretty good speculations though and i belive all of them might be right and makes sense
i also noted that persephone before she kills a guy with a silver bullet she says that those other programs his husband has kept them because they are hard to kill and she also said that those programs have been arround for along time and she makes a comment about them also being arround when the other matrixes were built which means that a lot of programs have been arround for the longest time including agent smith ,merivinchi and those others and that they all have seen and fought the other "ones" which makes sense cause they all mention something about a prodecesors
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