Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think you are exaggerating.
I just watched Megan Kelly go through 15-20 clips of him the past 6 years saying exactly the tone of "I will not go at this alone, or write an executive order for immigration reform."
Now he has completely lied.
Its a complete defiance of the constitution. This last election was a complete referendum against this kind of policy.
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And if you knew anything about legal wording, you'd know that giving amnesty is not 'establishing a uniform rule of naturalization.' Quite the opposite, it's a one-time exception to the rule, not unlike the president pardoning a prisoner for a federal crime. It doesn't mean the law no longer applies, just that the president lifted the penalty of said law for one person.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You are like type of people Gruber and Obama like. Uniformed and Uneducated on current events.Truth is, this is exactly what is happening and you don't even know it, but you will tomorrow.
I'm well informed on what's going on.
I understand that the current immigration policy is unsustainable and true enforcement of current laws would be logistically impossible, so amnesty in some form is a necessity.
However, amnesty does not mean a North American Union. That's beyond ridiculous. Why would America want to create a North American Union anyhow? Who the Hell in Washington do you think wants open borders with Mexico? No one, that's who. No one wants Mexico's baggage. The amnesty move is simply about coming to terms with reality and seeing that there are too many illegal immigrants to get rid of.
Don't come in here with your conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones, Fox News, Glenn Beck, build-a-wall-around-America bullshit and call other people misinformed.
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Keep thinking that.I'm well informed on what's going on.
I understand that the current immigration policy is unsustainable and true enforcement of current laws would be logistically impossible, so amnesty in some form is a necessity.
However, amnesty does not mean a North American Union. That's beyond ridiculous. Why would America want to create a North American Union anyhow? Who the Hell in Washington do you think wants open borders with Mexico? No one, that's who. No one wants Mexico's baggage. The amnesty move is simply about coming to terms with reality and seeing that there are too many illegal immigrants to get rid of.
Don't come in here with your conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones, Fox News, Glenn Beck, build-a-wall-around-America bullshit and call other people misinformed.
Ur getting riled up over some extra harmless add on I put in the OP. Are you unable to notice the difference between serious and not serious? If you cannot, I apologize.
The point is its not Up to the President to make this decsion. Its congressional. And the new congress does not get sworn into office until January.
You actually are not that informed on this matter, if you were, you would know it breaks constitutional law.
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Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ur getting riled up over some extra harmless add on I put in the OP.The point is its not Up to the President to make this decsion. Its congressional. And the new congress does not get sworn into office until January.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, sorry, TI, I have to apologize for my behavior in this thread.I was super tired and stressed from a long day of grading papers, but that doesn't excuse my tone and attitude.
You know what I really appreciate post this because I had a bad day today and saw you responded and really didn't want to go at it. So thank you, and thank you.
More then half of Central American immigrants on welfare