Difficult situation for sure. However, the cheapest thing to is to allow illegals to become citizens and have some sort of dual citizenship with Mexico. Having been in the area of San Diego and Tijuana, most people of Mexican descent are hard working and not looking for any sort of handout. Time to set aside any sort of national pride on both sides.
Originally posted by SayWhat
Difficult situation for sure. However, the cheapest thing to is to allow illegals to become citizens and have some sort of dual citizenship with Mexico. Having been in the area of San Diego and Tijuana, most people of Mexican descent are hard working and not looking for any sort of handout. Time to set aside any sort of national pride on both sides.
http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845#countries
Originally posted by Omega VisionWhat it is, is that we came here as a Christian people "on a mission from God" to make it our prodigious home.
I've seen the Apotheosis of Washington statue. It's hilarious.
So, therefore, through "manifest" destiny, in God we trusted and by God we prevailed as a Godly nation. Then all sorts of chaos took hold to somehow make it the most powerful nation on earth and stay that way long after other nations, such as China, will surpass our GDP (economic parasitism will eventually starve-out any economy, go figure) because we're still set like no other in military force when culminated with our allies.
What I predict will happen when China and India surpass us, is we'll rewrite the system once more, we will lead the world into the space age and we will utilize our military-industrial complex culminated with our space-age technologies to create an infrastructure so self-autonomous, energy efficient, and resource-abundant, that once the technological singularity hits we'll be the first to realize its full implications, we'll be a penny-less nation but nothing will cost a penny here exclusively. We'll change human society forever here.
Nothing that has happened in America would have even been dreamed of by the founding fathers, and I do believe this is God's nation now. It is becoming New Jerusalem.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
On the subject of the Founding Fathers, they were colonists, not illegal immigrants, legally speaking.
All a matter of view. Those "colonist" came into the country without the permission of the people already living there, took for themselves at the expense of the natives and then refused to leave.
Sounds a lot like the same gripes many Americans levy at the illegal aliens of today.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
On the subject of the Founding Fathers, they were colonists, not illegal immigrants, legally speaking.
True. Kind of a fine line between colonization and conquest when a pre existing population gets swept aside, though.
Ireland was considered a "colony", too, but that was a pretty straightforward land grab at the expense of the native population.
Originally posted by Robtard
All a matter of view. Those "colonist" came into the country without the permission of the people already living there, took for themselves at the expense of the natives and then refused to leave.Sounds a lot like the same gripes many Americans levy at the illegal aliens of today.
To be fair, that's pretty much the history of expansion in a nutshell. Hardly unique to US colonists.
A population can't do anything about their bloody history, and they have every right to protect the here and now.
Originally posted by cdtm
True. Kind of a fine line between colonization and conquest when a pre existing population gets swept aside, though.
Native populations had been extirpated from the Thirteen Colonies (or at least, the coastal regions where all the Founding Fathers were born and grew up) decades before the War of Independence.