Originally posted by Golgo13
Of course Orion wouldn't win a feat war. He doesn't have as much appearances. You don't have to win a feat war to be on someones level. Wraith has less feats than either of them, but would kick the crap out of Thor or Orion.
I know that. I stand by my first statement on the matter. Thingy wants to keep posting scans on why he thinks Orion wins. I am showing him that Thor has feats that match Orion's.
Originally posted by Stoic
You sure that you want to get into a feat war? I can keep bringing out new one, while you will only be able to rehash ones that Orion has been through with Darkseid, who happens to be his biggest pay day. I'm not saying that the Astro Force would not hurt him, but it may not have the same effect on him as it would Superman. Thor has his own methods of mitigating damage. This is something that you may not be able to see. Superman does not have a nearly indestructible hammer. Why keep bringing him up? Oh because that's another one of the reasons that you believe that Orion wins this. On the other hand, Thor has dealt with characters more powerful than Darkseid or Superman, and is still around to tell the tale. Should we continue to go feat for feat? Thor has some pretty ridiculous ones in his respect section.
Good job ignoring speed again, what good will your scans do when you have still not proven thor can touch him. Orion has taken on mantis whose blasts can shatter solar systems.
Mantis destroyed MMH, green lantern and legion of superheroes and orion took him on.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-15_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-16_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-19_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-20_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
This is only one of the times orion has taken on mantis, he has fought him twice.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Response.jpg
Here is another scan of orion defeating kalibak but this time kalibak was channeling darkseids power.
You have still yet to show that thor can match speed with orion(he cant)
Originally posted by Stoic
I know that. I stand by my first statement on the matter. Thingy wants to keep posting scans on why he thinks Orion wins. I am showing him that Thor has feats that match Orion's.
You have not shown any feats that match orion(especially in speed)
Still waiting on you to counter my speed feats, looks like it must have slipped your mind.
I now have the scans of orion fighting mantis, your toast.
Originally posted by thingy150
Good job ignoring speed again, what good will your scans do when you have still not proven thor can touch him. Orion has taken on mantis whose blasts can shatter solar systems.Mantis destroyed MMH, green lantern and legion of superheroes and orion took him on.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-15_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-16_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-19_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-20_Earth--The_Doomed_Dominion.jpgThis is only one of the times orion has taken on mantis, he has fought him twice.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Response.jpg
Here is another scan of orion defeating kalibak but this time kalibak was channeling darkseids power.
You have still yet to show that thor can match speed with orion(he cant)
Well he did beat Gladiator, and Gladiator is faster than Orion. So I guess I'm not the only one ignoring context. Oh and Thor would destroy Mantis.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well he did beat Gladiator, and Gladiator is faster than Orion. So I guess I'm not the only one ignoring context. Oh and Thor would destroy Mantis.
Lol you dont know anything about mantis and i already disproved your gladiator theory twice.
Glads does not have any reaction time feats, he only has superspeed, orion has far faster reaction time than thor that is why he cant touch orion.
Thor is even slower than wolverine and spiderman when it comes to reaction time.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2424250-1.png
Your argument just got shredded again.
Originally posted by thingy150
Lol you dont know anything about mantis and i already disproved your gladiator theory twice.Glads does not have any reaction time feats, he only has superspeed, orion has far faster reaction time than thor that is why he cant touch orion.
Thor is even slower than wolverine and spiderman when it comes to reaction time.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2424250-1.png
Your argument just got shredded again.
You didn't disprove anything, you just disagreed with it. You're wrong but what's new? By the way are those Mantis scans Pre Crisis? Didn't you know that Pre Crisis is not canon to present day characters? You can't have it both ways champ.
Thor never has to allow Spider Man or Wolverine to get within striking distance, or have you forgotten that he can call on winds capable of blowing mountains away? You know CIS, and PIS happen in comics to give the reader a better story. Thor would perma kill both Spider Man, and Wolverine in less time that it took for you to try to low ball Thor. Good show.
Originally posted by Stoic
You didn't disprove anything, you just disagreed with it. You're wrong but what's new? By the way are those Mantis scans Pre Crisis? Didn't you know that Pre Crisis is not canon to present day characters? You can't have it both ways champ.Thor never has to allow Spider Man or Wolverine to get within striking distance, or have you forgotten that he can call on winds capable of blowing mountains away? You know CIS, and PIS happen in comics to give the reader a better story. Thor would perma kill both Spider Man, and Wolverine in less time that it took for you to try to low ball Thor. Good show.
Orion has stayed the same level all the way through pre crisis and post, he does not have as many scans as thor does and just about all the scans you listed were classic thor. If you don't want pre crisis then fine but don't act like orions power level is different other wise.
All of my feats are post crisis except for mantis and i think he fought mantis post crisis also.
I never low balled thor, i showed you feats of his pathetic reaction time. You don't have an argument against orions speed advantage so you are getting flustered. Thor wont be able to lay a finger on him, orion will hit him with his astro force and thor will go down. Orion wins round 1 i have already proven this to be true, why don't you argue about round 2.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thor wasn't at full power, and Angela isn't weak by any stretch of the imagination.
It looks like it was a similar fight with Mantis. Orion wasn't at full power (Pacifist mode, IIRC), yet Orion managed to put her on the ropes in the end. Mantis was stated to be one of the best Martial artists in the universe in that issue, IIRC.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Orion/orionastroforce1.jpg
Orion can use his astro force to shield himself from attacks, he used it to block darkseids omega beams....he can block thors shots
Originally posted by thingy150
Orion has stayed the same level all the way through pre crisis and post, he does not have as many scans as thor does and just about all the scans you listed were classic thor. If you don't want pre crisis then fine but don't act like orions power level is different other wise.All of my feats are post crisis except for mantis and i think he fought mantis post crisis also.
I never low balled thor, i showed you feats of his pathetic reaction time. You don't have an argument against orions speed advantage so you are getting flustered. Thor wont be able to lay a finger on him, orion will hit him with his astro force and thor will go down. Orion wins round 1 i have already proven this to be true, why don't you argue about round 2.
That does not matter. Pre Crisis is not canon to present day characters. You have to come up with more footage than that. Those scans are to be ignored like they did not ever happen according to forum rules.
He did fight Mantis post Crisis. Death of the New Gods shows how far above Mantis Orion actually is, and to be honest Orion made Mantis look pretty pitiful. Thor would take him out as well IMO.
You are bringing up low showings in order to make it seem like Thor can't deal with speed, when he was actually dealing with uncanny agility, and unorthodox fighting styles. Most characters would be slightly put off by a nearly indestructible berserker with razor sharp claws, and a crazy healing factor. Again in a forum math Thor never has to allow either of them to get within striking distance. You bringing this up on more than one occasion shows me that you are attempting to undermine Thor's capabilities, which comes off like a low ball. This doesn't surprise me after you posting Thor being blind sided by the Hulk, while not suspecting that his mind was taken over by Thanos.
So yes you are low balling. Gladiator is faster than Orion. Thor has beaten him which shows that he can deal with Orion's speed. You disagree, but have yet to mention why? Even if you mentioned it, it does not take away from the fact that Gladiator is faster than Orion.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Orion/orionbullettime.jpg
Orion says he can easily dodge bullets(and i already have scans of him catching one while blind)
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Orion/oriondisintegration.jpg
The astro force can disintegrate things on a sub atomic level.
I have scans of him taking on the JLA and humiliating superman also/
Originally posted by thingy150
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Orion/orionastroforce1.jpgOrion can use his astro force to shield himself from attacks, he used it to block darkseids omega beams....he can block thors shots
Thor can use Mjolnir to shield himself from Orion's Astro Force. What else do you have?
