Originally posted by Bentley
Referring the universe as an accident.The concept of the universe can dismiss something as unneeded, as in, it wouldn't be fundamental for it's definition. That's what I meant.
You believe Quantum Mechanics need an observer in order for them to work as they do? That's quite a claim.
If we are talking about it, then we are the observer.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If we are talking about it, then we are the observer.
I admitted there were observers before, I don't think that means the universe only works the way it does because there are observers.
There is a thin line between describing Quantum Mechanics and metaphysics if you stick to the second statement. As far as I know, science has never assumed observers transform things as much as that observers should be considered when describing the universe because they are implied by our methods of watching the universe. We should never confuse the method we use to understand the universe with the actual universe.
Originally posted by Bentley
I admitted there were observers before, I don't think that means the universe only works the way it does because there are observers.There is a thin line between describing Quantum Mechanics and metaphysics if you stick to the second statement. As far as I know, science has never assumed observers transform things as much as that observers should be considered when describing the universe because they are implied by our methods of watching the universe. We should never confuse the method we use to understand the universe with the actual universe.
Boltzmann brain
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Boltzmann brain
Nice read.
Still, it doesn't talk anything about how important belief is as far as creating reality. Actually it does a great argument to propose the exact opposite. I used a similar argument in one of the religious discussions about intelligent designs here in the forums.
Originally posted by Bentley
Nice read.Still, it doesn't talk anything about how important belief is as far as creating reality. Actually it does a great argument to propose the exact opposite. I used a similar argument in one of the religious discussions about intelligent designs here in the forums.
It was just the place where we were going.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Inquisition and the Dark Ages are definitely Christian made.To deny this is stupid.
Christianity was born of innocent blood and I do not mean Christian blood.
Regards
DL
to believe what you believe is stupid... clearly, Jesus said this:
"You have heard that it was said to the men of old, You shall not kill; and whoever kills shall be liable to judgment.
But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, You fool! shall be liable to the hell of fire."
Matthew 5:21-22
Jesus even preached a stricter law... killing is prohibited in Christianity... so saying that the Inquisition is "Christian-made" is stupid...
Originally posted by dyajeep
to believe what you believe is stupid... clearly, Jesus said this:"You have heard that it was said to the men of old, [b]You shall not kill
; and whoever kills shall be liable to judgment.
But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, You fool! shall be liable to the hell of fire."
Matthew 5:21-22Jesus even preached a stricter law... killing is prohibited in Christianity... so saying that the Inquisition is "Christian-made" is stupid... [/B]
I guess you do not know how your bible came to bee and how much blood Christians spilled on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lIm05YY00w
Education is a good hedge against stupid remarks.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
I guess you do not know how your bible came to bee and how much blood Christians spilled on it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lIm05YY00w
Education is a good hedge against stupid remarks.
Regards
DL
Its your Bible as much as it ours, considering you read it prolly more then we do.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no correct way to read the bible.
The first way in correctly reading it is not making things up.
When the bible says "we are all gods"
that does not mean "We are God"
Any second hand idiot such as himself would know that, he does know that but he is just a deceiver and spreads misinformation.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The first way in correctly reading it is not making things up.When the bible says "we are all gods"
that does not mean "We are God"
Any second hand idiot such as himself would know that, he does know that but he is just a deceiver and spreads misinformation.
Of course, when the bible says "we are all gods" it means "We are God". Will you stop reading the bible WRONG. You asinine fool! 😛
Look! You have a belief, but it is not the only belief out there in the big world. Not all Christian denominations read the bible the same way. Gnostic Christians are just very different.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its your Bible as much as it ours, considering you read it prolly more then we do.
Not really. As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, I value all the myths about God.
Perpetual seeking forces that while your idol worship just has you idol worshiping just the one God and book.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The first way in correctly reading it is not making things up.When the bible says "we are all gods"
that does not mean "We are God"
Any second hand idiot such as himself would know that, he does know that but he is just a deceiver and spreads misinformation.
Was Jesus God and can his brethren be Gods as well?
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
If not, then what are those quotes telling us?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Of course, when the bible says "we are all gods" it means "We are God". Will you stop reading the bible WRONG. You asinine fool! 😛Look! You have a belief, but it is not the only belief out there in the big world. Not all Christian denominations read the bible the same way. Gnostic Christians are just very different.
Correct. We read myths as myths and not as reality.
We do not then have to believe that talking animals and a water walking God who can somehow die are truths.
Regards
DL