Darth Talon vs Kas'im

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Two ways we can continue this:
1.) We can have a debate on KotOR Revan and what energies he drew off of. You will lose the debate and time.

Accept, pumpkin, I'm merely applying that flawed nexus! logic to Revan as an example, I've said it time and time again, I won't believe that "Bane drew on a Nexus!1" unless it was stated specifically by the author in novel or a SW source(I.e Essential guide) I am not one to use the Nexus argument, and you know that.

2.) You concede on what energies we drew on, and I will make a statement covering Revan in Kaas City.

First off. I think you mean "he" I don't remember being in the SW universe :mmm:

Secondly, read the statement above. by your logic, simply by being in a Nexus makes one instinctively draw on it, that would also apply to Revan in this case as well. I reiterate, i was using Revan as an example.

Honestly, I thought you'd get that i was doing that, considering i was using B-team and many others as examples 😬 also in regards to both of those two statement. "In your dreams." 🙄

I'm reading your post trying to determine if your trolling or just ignoring canon. Care to clarify?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm reading your post trying to determine if your trolling or just ignoring canon. Care to clarify?

Care to specify?

Because I read your post 4 times and had no clue what you were saying other then statements that were false.

I think it makes sense that if someone is on a powerful Force nexus then they would instinctively get some amp from it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Because I read your post 4 times and had no clue what you were saying other then statements that were false.

If you're referring to my statement that included B-team, i was mocking Carthage's flawed logic and applying to other characters. Also, it would help if you, you know, specified which post you're referring to.

I couldn't even understand what you were trying to say with the B-Team. Sorry.

Forget it , just.. just go look at the Revan posters and shirts.

Even though i literally just explained what I was trying to do, but whatevsies.

I am, and you didn't.

Originally posted by carthage
He even said he would have to concentrate harder to do it off world, indicating that without the amp it would be harder. He was amped regardless, and no there is no evidence he had to "Draw on the power" at all. He even credits his ability to lift them due to being on the nexus. You have no case

Yes.... that's how an amp works. I'm not saying he wasn't amped, the issue is whether he was amped automatically or by drawing on it. The text makes no mention either way. So I have no case because there is no case because this isn't evidence that actually proves anything.

But I can post evidence too:

"He called upon the power of the temple itself, feeding on it to bolster his own abilities as he created a deadly field around his body." - Dynasty of Evil.

Seems pretty clear that Bane's consciously calling upon the nexus when he hadn't been before that point.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I am, and you didn't.

If you're referring to my statement that included B-team, i was mocking Carthage's flawed logic and applying to other characters. Also, it would help if you, you know, specified which post you're referring to.

Honestly, I thought you'd get that i was doing that, considering i was using B-team and many others as examples

Point numero uno: I was using that flawed logic that Carthage is known for and applying to other characters in a similar fashion, foolish and mocking fashion.

Point numero dos: I cited, Mace Windu's fight with the droid army on Dantooine, Yoda, Mace and B-team being in close proximity to the Jedi temple in their respective fights against Grevious as pure examples and applied said flawed logic to them.

Point numero tres: I never use or cling to the Nexus argument, I don't even mention it in my respect thread even though i could so easily do it and wank Jaden even more, I've acknowledged when a character has used a Nexus, because it's been specifically stated by the book, the sw source or the character him/her/itself. You know this, i was simply using Revan, yoda and Mace as examples and applying that logic to them.

Are we clear or do I need to write a bigger essay? whatever the case, this was just to explain and clarify what i was trying to do, don't reply to this.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm reading your post and trying to have determined your trolling or just ignoring canon.

Still love you though. <3

It doesn't really matter either way. If you're drawing on the Force on a nexus, you're drawing on the nexus. A nexus is not an object or a container, it's just an area where the Force itself is unusually strong. That is it's definition.

None of the Bane fans want to believe that though

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It doesn't really matter either way. If you're drawing on the Force on a nexus, you're drawing on the nexus. A nexus is not an object or a container, it's just an area where the Force itself is unusually strong. That is it's definition.

They're looking for them stating the obvious that they're "drawing on the power of the nexus" similar to the post Bane made of Bane on Prakith. Overlooking the fact that merely the act of using the force, in an area of strong force concentration (nexus) while amped by said energies is 'drawing on it'. I think that's where the misunderstanding lies with the issue.

Denying that someone was drawing on a nexus is like denying that someone was choking on a smoke while in a burning house.

Luke rose, saw his lightsaber a few meters away, and yanked it to him with a casual display of the Force. It struck his palm with far more energy than he'd intended, and he dropped it again.

Still cartwheeling, Luke flicked his palm up. The Force rushed into him with wild, burning fierceness, then he unleashed a blast of energy so powerful it blew the flesh off her vanalloy skeleton—that was a surprise—and she tumbled away in pieces, her crimson blade tracing spirals through the darkness.
Luke’s shoulder glanced off a tree. He hit the ground, off balance and disoriented, a little unnerved by the raw power he had just unleashed. The Force had swept into him with pure unshaped potential, and he had killed with it—more out of surprise than necessity.

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Bane fans cried out in denial.

Well they're specifically asking for the text to saying "Drawing on the nexus", as if its some inert substance they can tap into at will. Which is ridiculous because I've posted text where Bane always states that he's in a place 'strong in the darkside'- or in another similar context. They don't have to state that they're "Drawing on it" all you have to do is use the force in an area of strong concentration of it- and you're using it (the nexus).