Darth Talon vs Kas'im

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't think I can respond to this post without either quoting Tempest's double-standards picture or being grossly omniscient. :mmm:
That being said, they display blurs with their lightsaber blades (speed), and are powerful enough for some of them to be Darths, such as Darth Havok.
Taking on and defeating dozens of Sith Warriors while simultaneously avoiding lightsaber blades and force attacks everywhere and forming attacks of your own is impressive.
In addition, many showed skill in Jar'kai and intense acrobatic feats. Bane has really no feats at this point to suggest he can handle all these Sith Warriors, let alone Darth Talon.

Other than obliterating a massive temple, disintegrating people with lightning, ragdolling Qordis, resisting Kaan when a hundred Sith Lords couldn't, moving fast enough that a room of the best Sith apprentices in the empire couldn't see him and defeating the best Sith of his era.

All nexus feats 👆 (apart from the Qoordis thing) and Kaan's resistance feat. And regarding Bane's nexus temple feat, Revan's ships already leveled massive portions of it with blaster bolts. Bane destroyed nothing put randomly strewn piles of rubble

Originally posted by Nephthys
Other than obliterating a massive temple, disintegrating people with lightning, moving fast enough that a room of the best Sith apprentices in the empire couldn't see him and defeating the best Sith of his era.

I edited in some moar feats. I don't know how you could suggest that Bane couldn't handle some fodder Sith, by the time of the Kas'im fight he was clearly the most powerful Sith alive and the best fighter to boot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I edited in some moar feats. I don't know how you could suggest that Bane couldn't handle some fodder Sith, by the time of the Kas'im fight he was clearly the most powerful Sith alive and the best fighter to boot.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't think I can respond to this post without either quoting Tempest's double-standards picture or being grossly omniscient. :mmm:

If you're referring to me and the Reborn, that accolade comes directly from the Sith Vs Jedi essential guide, and I never stated that the Reborn are equal to someone like malak.

That being said, they display blurs with their lightsaber blades (speed),

Not to lowball your feat, but a lot of people do that in comics, plus, there's nothing to suggest that all[ of them have such speed, just because one or two guys moved in blurs during a part of the comics, doesn't mean they all can.

and are powerful enough for some of them to be Darths, such as Darth Havok. Taking on and defeating dozens of Sith Warriors while simultaneously avoiding lightsaber blades and force attacks everywhere and forming attacks of your own is impressive.

It's impressive, their is strength in numbers. However just how skilled would these Sith warriors be?

In addition, many showed skill in Jar'kai and intense acrobatic feats. Bane has really no feats at this point to suggest he can handle all these Sith Warriors, let alone Darth Talon. [/B]

Except you know, being taught everything by Kas'im - almost everything and then beating him back at the temple of ancients.

Being taught by Kas'im isn't a feat lmao, beating two skilled Jedi like Sazen and Vao are two feats that put Talon above Kas'im.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
If you're referring to me and the Reborn, that accolade comes directly from the Sith Vs Jedi essential guide, and I never stated that the Reborn are equal to someone like malak.

Not to lowball your feat, but a lot of people do that in comics, plus, there's nothing to suggest that all[ of them have such speed, just because one or two guys moved in blurs during a part of the comics, doesn't mean they all can.

It's impressive, their is strength in numbers. However just how skilled would these Sith warriors be?

Except you know, being taught everything by Kas'im - almost everything and then beating him back at the temple of ancients.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Other than obliterating a massive temple, disintegrating people with lightning, ragdolling Qordis, resisting Kaan when a hundred Sith Lords couldn't, moving fast enough that a room of the best Sith apprentices in the empire couldn't see him and defeating the best Sith of his era.

Wait Neph, I'm not allowed to do a Fated vs Fated debate, right? Or am I allowed to do that?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lightsaber fighting is a bit different from kickboxing when you factor in precognition and the power of the Force. Bane was more powerful than Kas'im and could still use the force to predict his attacks, so of course he wasn't completely demolished and was able to retreat.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ik. I'm studying for a Rome exam tomorrow, so I can't really emerge into a full-scale debate.
That being said, I'm just hanging around to see if Fated blames you for what he blamed me.

It's simple logic bro. The students at Bane's academy were said to be as powerful and skilled as fully fledged Sith Lords, and Bane was far and away better than any of them when he left. Yet Kas'im still judged his abilities as such that he was surprised when he couldn't blitz Bane off the bat. So it's pretty darn clear that Kas'im and Bane were far above the rank and file Sith that you're talking about and could easily do what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's simple logic bro. The students at Bane's academy were said to be as powerful and skilled as fully fledged Sith Lords, and Bane was far and away better than any of them when he left. Yet Kas'im still judged his abilities as such that he was surprised when he couldn't blitz Bane off the bat. So it's pretty darn clear that Kas'im and Bane were far above the rank and file Sith that you're talking about and could easily do what you're talking about.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ik. I'm studying for a Rome exam tomorrow, so I can't really emerge into a full-scale debate.
That being said, I'm just hanging around to see if Fated blames you for what he blamed me.

Or you could just disagree and not make a big deal out of it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm just hanging around to see if Fated blames you for what he blamed me.

There's a difference, the Sith warriors move a blur typical of comics, they didn't move too fast for Shado or the other dude to see, while Kas'im has struck ten times per second(cue the nexus screams) and moved faster than any in the sith academy could perceive.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
There's a difference, the Sith warriors move a blur typical of comics, they didn't move too fast for Shado or the other dude to see, while Kas'im has struck ten times per second(cue the nexus screams) and moved faster than any in the sith academy could perceive.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Or you could just disagree and not make a big deal out of it.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
There's a difference, the Sith warriors move a blur typical of comics, they didn't move too fast for Shado or the other dude to see, while Kas'im has struck ten times per second(cue the nexus screams) and moved faster than any in the sith academy could perceive.

How do you know he can even replicate combat speed like that at any point? What makes him faster than Talon moving in a blur? Where Kas'im trained Bane was specifically mentioned by Qoordis to focus darkside energies, and Lehon where he fought Bane was a potent darkside nexus. You can't ignore any of that.

Oh you did reply.

Originally posted by carthage
I'm glad they hold no water to you, seeing as how I go by showings and all you do is wank. Kas'im's technical mastery mean nothing to me by the same extension, Talon is a better duelist because she has the feats to back it up-whereas Kas'im has all hype and hot air. If Kas'im is the "better duelist" than prove it with people he's beaten, that's the same challenge I issued to Bantha and it applies to you as well

They're both blademasters:check, they're both knowledgeable of most aspects of lightsaber combat: check, Kas'im is from Bane's era, has just as few showings as a duelist/is equally hyped as Drallig yet even as lauded as a "warrior" has killed no one but you dismiss Drallig because he's PT and didn't fight Bane: CHECK

Pffft, typical carthage. I don't care about your dumb challenge. And I don't go by wank, you go by lowball. It's not hot air that Kas'im really did master every aspect of lightsaber combat (and he specifically proves that his skills in actual combat were still excellent at one point, so don't go on about him lacking real combat skill, lol), that he really did have a good enough grasp of them to invent thousands of sequences based on them and he clearly was a warrior above all other Sith of his time.

Lmao. They have legs: check. Wow, they are similar. No, carthage. Theres no point continuing this.

Weh

Originally posted by carthage
What makes him faster than Talon moving in a blur?

Kopecz ran down a hallway and killed an entire squad of the Republic's best troops before all but one could fire more than once. And Kas'im is better than him by a fair bit.

There's a difference, the Sith warriors move a blur typical of comics, they didn't move too fast for Shado or the other dude to see, while Kas'im has struck ten times per second(cue the nexus screams) and moved faster than any in the sith academy could perceive.