Jedi vs Sith

Started by Time Immemorial7 pages
Originally posted by ares834
Padawan Kenobi, not the Kenobi who was capable of matching Anakin. 🙂

It was 2 on 1 regardless.

And Maul was an apprentice as well.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It was 2 on 1 regardless.

And Maul was an apprentice as well.

That's cool. Kenobi improved though while Maul died (unless we bring the new EU into things).

Originally posted by ares834
That's cool. Kenobi improved though while Maul died (unless we bring the new EU into things).
Clone wars is canon so maul did not die. You're ignorant. Disney has said that is canon and maul returns.

Is there any new EU material yet? I mean there are new novels in the process of being written but, still

Originally posted by ares834
And what of the fight where Kenobi defeated both Maul and Savage. 😂
No, he did not. You're lying. Obi ran from him and was defeated by him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clone wars is canon so maul did not die. You're ignorant. Disney has said that is canon and maul returns.

Sure thing. Yet this is the movie forum and we rely on movie feats. I know that there was talk about that rule changing but I haven't seen anything definitive yet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he did not. You're lying. Obi ran from him and was defeated by him.

Nope.

Kenobi lost the first fight but that was because he just woke up from being knocked out and because he used the dark side.

In the second fight he takes on both Savage and Maul chops off Savage's arm and force Maul to retreat. 😂

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Is there any new EU material yet? I mean there are new novels in the process of being written but, still

Two tv shows, a comic, and three books that I know of.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope.

Kenobi lost the first fight but that was because he just woke up from being knocked out and because he used the dark side.

In the second fight he takes on both Savage and Maul chops off Savage's arm and force Maul to retreat. 😂

Two tv shows, a comic, and three books that I know of.

Iirc Obi did not defeat Maul and he was forced to retreat because of other does pressing him.

Iirc maul also plainly beat him another time.

They had two full duels. The first time Kenobi retreated. The second time Maul (and Savage) did.

Originally posted by ares834
They had two full duels. The first time Kenobi retreated. The second time Maul (and Savage) did.
iirc Wasn't it due to Hondo'spirates whereas the first duel was Obi just fleeing ??

Nope. They were dueling in a tunnel. Kenobi cuts off Savage's arm and Maul force pushes Kenobi away allowing them to escape. Only after the are retreating does Hondo and his pirates begin to fire upon Maul.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. They were dueling in a tunnel. Kenobi cuts off Savage's arm and Maul force pushes Kenobi away allowing them to escape. Only after the are retreating does Hondo and his pirates begin to fire upon Maul.
Which episode ? I still recall them being overwhelmed. Maul always showed himself to be superior to Obi in one on one combat.

I don't know... Lol. The two were presented as more or less equals in the show with both holding the advantage in various fights. Anyway, don't you always cry movies only?

It's "Revival."

Originally posted by ares834
I don't know... Lol. The two were presented as more or less equals in the show with both holding the advantage in various fights. Anyway, don't you always cry movies only?
This is canon and impediment allowed the series for Star Trek so I don't see the difference here.

Maul has a huge advantage either way.

Maul was clearly his superior in the show and a rival to Palpatine. Palpatine was clearly superior but he still acknowledged Maul as a rival. Obi's small time compared to Palpatine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is canon and impediment allowed the series for Star Trek so I don't see the difference here.

Maul has a huge advantage either way.

Maul was clearly his superior in the show and a rival to Palpatine. Palpatine was clearly superior but he still acknowledged Maul as a rival. Obi's small time compared to Palpatine.

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Maul was a rival in that he was an independent agent with an agenda that conflicted with Palpatine's own. He was clearly not a rival in the physical sense, given how utterly Sidious shitstomped Maul and Savage.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Maul was a rival in that he was an independent agent with an agenda that conflicted with Palpatine's own. He was clearly not a rival in the physical sense, given how utterly Sidious shitstomped Maul and Savage.

In terms of both. Physically he was on par but in terms of force powers and skill Palpatine had his number. Maul was still a rival unlike the weakling known as Obi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In terms of both. Physically he was on par but in terms of force powers and skill Palpatine had his number. Maul was still a rival unlike the weakling known as Obi.

When I say "physically," I don't literally mean musculature. I mean as a physical threat. Sidious is vastly superior, which is why he took Maul and Savage to the curb at the same time.

Palpatine deemed Maul a rival because Maul had his own apprentice which conflicted the "Rule of Two"

Originally posted by The_Tempest
When I say "physically," I don't literally mean musculature. I mean as a physical threat. Sidious is vastly superior, which is why he took Maul and Savage to the curb at the same time.
I agree in terms of a formidability and only saw him as a rival in terms of possibly being able to someday best him but not even close as to when they squared off.