Jedi vs Sith

Started by The_Tempest7 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree in terms of a formidability and only saw him as a rival in terms of eventually being able to someday best him but not even close as to when they squared off.

Perhaps. Either way, though, neither Maul nor Obi-Wan are anything but fodder for someone like Sidious.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Perhaps. Either way, though, neither Maul nor Obi-Wan are anything but fodder for someone like Sidious.
No, Maul was far greater than Obi. Palpatine wouldn't train some scrub.

Fact remains that Sith own the Jedi in this fight.
Sidious > Yoda
Vader > Windu
Maul = Obi Wan ( at best for Obi )

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Maul was far greater than Obi. Palpatine wouldn't train some scrub.

I never said Maul wasn't greater than Obi-Wan. I just said they're both fodder next to Palpatine... which they are.

Originally posted by relentless1
Fact remains that Sith own the Jedi in this fight.
Sidious > Yoda
Vader > Windu
Maul = Obi Wan ( at best for Obi )
Windu would break Vader. Don't be silly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clone wars is canon so maul did not die. You're ignorant. Disney has said that is canon and maul returns.
In Clone Wars Obi fought Maul and Savage Opress at once. He also won, IIRC.

Jedi win. Maul is the weak link.

Originally posted by NemeBro
In Clone Wars Obi fought Maul and Savage Opress at once. He also won, IIRC.
Completely false.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Completely false.

Kenobi's victory was highly circumstantial, but nah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE_CVWMWK74

"Obi-Wan knew the Sith would expect him to take up a defensive stance in an effort to keep them at bay. But he also knew that tactic would give him no hope to prevail -- he would be worn down until his guard slipped and then he would die, like Adi had. Surprise was his best bet for survival -- and perhaps his only chance. The two Sith fell back, startled to find Obi-Wan taking the offensive and surprised by the ferocity of his attack. Sabers hissed, their blades striking sparks from the walls, leaving half-melted scrapes and bubbling burns in their wake. The two Sith maneuvered to pin Obi-Wan against the wall -- but there was so little room in the corridor that they got in each other's way." --Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy

Obi-Wan Kenobi's sudden aggressive attacks and the confining corridor was to his benefit and their disadvantage, making it a highly circumstantial victory.
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However, Darth Maul did hold his own shortly against Mace Windu and Aayla Secura on a Mandalorian supply outpost, but that doesn't put Maul on Windu's tier:

That book is non canon though.

Lame, I forgot these forums over here don't use the EU.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Kenobi's victory was highly circumstantial, but nah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE_CVWMWK74
Maul force pushes him away and protects his brother. He looked superior here as well. In no way, shape, or form does Kenobi best maul here. GTFO.

Kenobi bested Maul there.

How does Maul have his legs here but not in the above video where he fought Obi?

YouTube video

:facepalm:

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kenobi bested Maul there.
Maul force pushed him. He was not ever bested by Obi. Acting like him leaving to aid his hurt brother and ignoring Hondo's pirates backup is silly.

He ran away because he couldn't stand before Kenobi. Maul is a coward at heart. Just look at how he begged for his life to Sidious.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
:facepalm:

I don't watch EU, so reverse facepalm.

Easiest way to argue:

Mace > Sidious

Yoda > Vader

Obi Wan = Maul

Yoda would beat Vader the quickest, then its a double and triple team.