Cuba

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Even some of the “historicos,” as the older generation is called, have softened their views, recognizing the lack of democratic progress in Cuba. Laureano Vilches, 71, stewed for decades over the fact that his family’s business, a refrigerated warehouse in Havana, was seized by the communist government. But today, he has set aside his outrage.

“As far as I’m concerned, this can only be good for the Cubans who are still there, and they’ll live a better life economically,” said Mr. Vilches, who went 40 years without setting foot in Cuba but now visits every couple of months. “I don’t stay angry anymore.”

This is essentially my position on the embargo.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Useless move by Obama.

Now Castro will be richer than ever, and Cuba gets the Puerto Rico/Guam treatment (becoming a US dummy state).

Totally agree, I wonder what his true motives are behind this and who directed him to do this, because he does not set his own agenda, his handlers do.

Originally posted by red g jacks
it's actually the opposite.. damn near every thread you make is trying to smear obama. you are obsessed with the guy tbh.

Typical strawman tactics

Please post some more Russian propaganda to prove your obvious anti-Obama agenda. It was very entertaining the last time.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Please post some more Russian propaganda to prove your obvious anti-Obama agenda. It was very entertaining the last time.

Keep cashing those govy checks homie.

Bit racist, but please further elaborate on why you think I receive government assistance.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's Obama's fault the US is allies with Saudi Arabia and has been doing business with them since at least the early 30's; barring that little hiccup in 73?

This makes sense to you?

We only get 13% of our oil from them. That is nothing, that could easily be replaced by domestic production. Just because we are allies does not mean we have to buy oil from them. In fact I literally have no clue why we are allies with them. They fund terrorism, they oppress their people and women, they are greedy ass holes. Obama can write and executive order just the way he wrote his last one barring oil purchases. But he won't cause he's focused on destroying America and giving money to police states like Cuba and Saudi.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Bit racist, but please further elaborate on why you think I receive government assistance.

Explain "a bit racist."

I'm guessing you will say homie is racist? Wrong, I call most of my friends homie, does that make racist?

Please answer the second part of the sentence

The Castros are already rich. The embargo has so far failed to dislodge their grip on power or bring them to reform. If anything, the embargo makes it easier for them to control their own people because it creates an "under siege" mentality.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Explain "a bit racist."

I'm guessing you will say homie is racist? Wrong, I call most of my friends homie, does that make racist?


No, I think he was implying that suggesting he was just collecting welfare checks is a bit racist, seeing as he's black and that's a stereotype.

I don't think it was racist, just kind of lame and trollish.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Please answer the second part of the sentence

Most people on government assistance pledge blind loyalty to the hand that feeds them.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Most people on government assistance pledge blind loyalty to the hand that feeds them.

So calling you out on trying to validate your opinion with Russian propaganda=welfare reception. Interesting thought process you got going on there.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So calling you out on trying to validate your opinion with Russian propaganda=welfare reception. Interesting thought process you got going on there.

Now you are Spinning. You have never once criticized this administration for one thing. You would accept anything they do regarding anyone else. Until say Obama pulled food stamps and stopped SSD. Then I am sure you would have a ton of things to say. However you only care about yourself and what the government can do for you and as long as it's no directly affecting your bottom line, you support it. The greatest democrats said "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" what do you do for your country?

So...you're still on the train of thought that I receive government assistance. Again, interesting thought process.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So...you're still on the train of thought that I receive government assistance. Again, interesting thought process.

You told me you were. Were you lying or did you get off?

Can you please quote this?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Can you please quote this?

You really want me to go back and find it?

Yes

Originally posted by Lestov16
Yes

Why should I when you said your family is on food stamps and SSI?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
We only get 13% of our oil from them. That is nothing, that could easily be replaced by domestic production. Just because we are allies does not mean we have to buy oil from them. In fact I literally have no clue why we are allies with them. They fund terrorism, they oppress their people and women, they are greedy ass holes. Obama can write and executive order just the way he wrote his last one barring oil purchases. But he won't cause he's focused on destroying America and giving money to police states like Cuba and Saudi.

Actually 13% of our imported oil, not total.

Bringing in Obama over SAU (which the US has dealed with since the 30's) is a red herring that deflects away from the original point concerning Cuba. If we shouldn't trade with Cuba because they're supposedly horrible to their people (by many accounts the Gov isn't), then we shouldn't trade with a lot of countries we currently trade with, yet the "I-Hate-Obama-No-Matter-What" crowd isn't showing rage over that. China is another.