Would Sidious blitz Revan?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Assuming that both parties are indeed "wankers" and taking into account that both parties have made remarks in this thread that could be construed by an outsider as "upset," then the hypocrisy would run both ways. 😉

Your newfound hate of Sidious is silly. I still remember all those threads in which you proudly and persistently defended His Imperial Majesty against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 😄

I don't see "hate" on my part, but wankers/homers are quick to abuse that word. Not surprising.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Except Mace won, but Filoni's outright confirmed Maul had no chance at winning that fight.

Windu could've lost as just as easy, It was very a heated battle duel, Infact Windu would take a minority against Sidious and probably that minority happened.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Windu could've lost as just as easy, It was very a heated battle duel, Infact Windu would take a minority against Sidious and probably that minority happened.

I agree. But point is Windu could win that minority, but from the sounds of it Maul could never win.

Best Maul could do in Sabers against Sidious is just hold his own or defend himself tbh.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Something tells me that Revan comes first for our fine beefy friend. He'd only defended your galactic emperor because revan didn't have this much exposure or aspects to wank, until now.

He was wanking Vitiate before Vitiate had a name, when all we knew of the character was that he was a hooded mysterious figure.
😂

Originally posted by Marco1907
Sidious toying claims are just that stupid if he is denying his own rule here.

Marco, when we say toying, what do you think we mean by it?

Also, I'd have to go back through the Plagueis novel, but I think Sidious was more worried about their existence being discovered on account of Maul toying with his victims. There's always a risk, but it's common among sadistic sith, and IIRC, later on in the same scene, Palpatine muses about being guilty of doing the same, not to mention he outright confirms in RoDV that he likes using a jedi weapon to mock his opponent (of course he only mentioned jedi, but it confirms his demeanor and behavior regarding far lesser opponents) and beat them in what they are best at, as he is beyond most force users and doesn't need a lightsaber to destroy them.

AidsBoy got slaughtered by me in this thread. Thank you to those who supported me. 👆

Pfft, you're not the first person to try to overrule Lucas with a random sourcebook. Not only did you lose the argument, I can't even award you points for originality.

However, your argument, however misguided and errant, was scholarly in its own way and 10x better than Neph's patented "no shut up i don't hear youuuuu!" dishonest approach to that particular quote.

So you're better than Neph, if that means anything. 131

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Marco, when we say toying, what do you think we mean by it?

Also, I'd have to go back through the Plagueis novel, but I think Sidious was more worried about their existence being discovered on account of Maul toying with his victims. There's always a risk, but it's common among sadistic sith, and IIRC, later on in the same scene, Palpatine muses about being guilty of doing the same, not to mention he outright confirms in RoDV that he likes using a jedi weapon to mock his opponent (of course he only mentioned jedi, but it confirms his demeanor and behavior regarding far lesser opponents) and beat them in what they are best at, as he is beyond most force users and doesn't need a lightsaber to destroy them.

*King Veruna

You taking that as a quote yet acknowledging :
1.) The quote is from 1998, 15 years ago.
2.) The quote is before KotOR, TOR, or LE.
3.) The quote is a strict Lucas universe quote.
Is honestly an automatic concession on your part.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You taking that as a quote yet acknowledging :
1.) The quote is from 1998, 15 years ago.
2.) The quote is before KotOR, TOR, or LE.
3.) The quote is a strict Lucas universe quote.
It honestly an automatic concession on your part.

There's no statute of limitations on Lucas quotes. And as I've had to explain to Stealth_Moose {among others} for years now, Lucas is/was not beholden to the EU, but the EU is/was beholden to Lucas.

In other words, it was always Lucas > EU, never the other way around. What he said was Word of God. He didn't have to consider other EU eras to exercise creator fiat.

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Lucas said the PT was the golden age of the Jedi. Obviously Jedi existed prior to the PT {"over a thousand generations" and all that}. Thus the PT is the golden age of the Jedi. It doesn't matter what some obscure sourcebook had to say on the subject. Lucas was very clear.

Tl;dr: S66 was right, you/Neph are wrongwrongwrong, and you need to do a lot better to labor your point. stoned

Originally posted by The_Tempest
However, your argument, however misguided and errant, was scholarly in its own way and 10x better than Neph's patented "no shut up i don't hear youuuuu!" dishonest approach to that particular quote.

So you're better than Neph, if that means anything. 131

That's not my argument. My argument was that we look at the context in which Lucas is talking and what specifically he is referring to. Even you admitted to frank confusion about what the quote actually means when you did that.

That logic is honestly why North Korea continues to hack Sony...
You can't win in this argument, KotOR never existed. His quote was based on existing eras.
Scratch that. His quote was based on the OT. He directly stated he views the EU as a different universe.
You or AidsBoy were unable to formulate an argument of PT's superiority over KotOR without hiding behind a 1998 quote.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That logic is honestly why North Korea continues to hack Sony...

wat

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You can't win in this argument,

😂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
KotOR never existed. His quote was based on existing eras.

facepalm

Me
In other words, it was always Lucas > EU, never the other way around. What he said was Word of God. He didn't have to consider other EU eras to exercise creator fiat.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Scratch that. His quote was based on the OT. He directly stated he views the EU as a [b]different universe.
You or AidsBoy were unable to formulate an argument of PT's superiority over KotOR without hiding behind a 1998 quote. [/B]

The same OT established that the Jedi order existed for at least over a thousand generations, putting the KotOR era well in its reach. And Lucas says the PT was the prime. He envisioned it that way. He winssssssss.

Another thought: Could we not say that Lucas' statement doesn't exclusively refer to the PT, but to the pre-Empire Jedi in general? The whole period before Oder 66 could therefore be seen as their Golden Age.

Just a thought, not sure how viable that is.

Get me a post 2003 quote saying PT over KotOR and I'll concede. Otherwise, you automatically lose by default.
Admit the Prequel Trilogy's limitations, restrictions, failure, weakness, and inferiority.

Creator and sourcebook statements are cancer

Originally posted by ILS
Creator and sourcebook statements are cancer

Deep analyze and logic and debate + conzenzuz iz god or holynezz.

Revan like all Jedi of malachor iz able to do the zame technic than ztarkiller. Remember in the game when you kill ztorm trooperz you regain life.... There iz a power of inztant drain by killing, it uze an energy call Dark to drain and abozrbe life energy zpontainiouzly. Dark iz a energy generate by deztruction it create an echoz in the force...

After a conzenzuz we declare thiz abilty canon. But Revan don't uze it too much to keep iz mind zane.

Thiz iz the power of plauzible theoriez....

Nobody can blitz Revan, nobody. Revan is immensely competent in all aspects of combat contrary to popular belief.

Revan is likely to present real challenge to Darth Sidious unlike that embarrassing muppet.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan is likely to present real challenge to Darth Sidious unlike that embarrassing muppet.

(Lol) No, Revan would not be a challenge to Sidious. Sidious isn't Vitiate.

While, I don't think Sidious can blitz Revan, just as I don't believe he'd blitz Dooku, but I'd like to see an actual argument to prove the notion that he can't rather than some links to his respect threads.