Until everyone has a solid theory on revan i dont know, I truly dont want to believe sids would blitz him though. Also Ant your one of the biggest Revanites here...........like me but with crazier knowledge if you could put revan on par skills within the SW universe in saber combat who would he be truly over and be truly under...........seriously this needs to be topic of its own. Revans power theory
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
(Lol) No, Revan would not be a challenge to Sidious. Sidious isn't Vitiate.
Lightsaber dueling arts are risky and tedious affairs. Even Darth Sidious lost a hand in a duel to a powerful Jedi (Luke Skywalker), if Dark Empire lore is still regarded as a valid source for consultation in debate, as a reminder.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
While, I don't think Sidious can blitz Revan, just as I don't believe he'd blitz Dooku, but I'd like to see an actual argument to prove the notion that he can't rather than some links to his respect threads.
Effectiveness in lightsaber dueling arts is not just dependent upon martial skills but also on command of the Force and experience.
Revan's performance against Imperial Guard is very telling:
One of the guards battling Meetra broke off and tried to cut Revan off. The Jedi gathered himself and leapt high in the air, tucking his knees in tight to somersault over his opponent. The guard reacted to the unexpected move a fraction too slowly, his electrostaff slicing through the air above his head and missing Revan by only a few centimeters. Revan landed on the ground and wheeled around to face the other man. He thrust out with the Force, the impact hitting the soldier square in the chest. Instead of sending him flying, it only staggered him back half a step—this close to the Emperor they were sworn to protect, the guards were able to draw on his power to protect themselves.
Still, the slight stumble gave Revan enough time to draw his lightsaber and go on the offensive. He came in with a high, overhand chop—an obvious feint meant to draw the defenses of his opponent upward, leaving his legs exposed to a quick follow-up strike. The guard recognized the familiar ploy, countering it by parrying the overhand chop then quickly dropping his blade low to intercept the inevitable slash at his legs. Only Revan didn't go for his legs. Anticipating that his opponent's defenses would go low, he kept his blade up high, allowing him to end the battle with a horizontal cut across the man's suddenly exposed throat. (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan)
It shall be kept in mind that a lone Imperial Guard individual can match a fully trained Jedi in martial aspects of combat, yet Revan dismissed one with ease.
With combination of acute awareness, precognitive potential, and smart decision making, Revan ended the duel (during martial phase) in only two moves. This entire action wouldn't have taken more then a second.
In short, Revan made all the right moves in this confrontation, even used acrobatics to evade attacks while he had not drawn his lightsaber.
Now back to the original point: Effectiveness in lightsaber dueling arts is not just dependent upon martial skills but also on command of the Force and experience, and Revan isn't lacking in any aspect.
Revan have demonstrated very impressive combat prowess holistically. Besides commonly demonstrated talents, Revan have demonstrated mastery of advanced defensive techniques and esoteric powers such as the ability to block Sith powers with bare hands, conjure a powerful protective bubble for maximum protection against external threats, and teleportation. And it's not that Revan is mostly hype, he have solid history of defeating and outdueling powerful adversaries and holding his own against overwhelming odds.
Furthermore, Revan have also demonstrated the aptitude to use his surroundings to his advantage should the need arise (e.g. he blocked a path inside the Citadel to prevent Imperial Guard from regrouping and increasing their numbers).
Revan have sufficient raw power, mastery of the Force, experience, and tactical brilliance to contend with Darth Sidious and give him a very tough challenge and deny him a kill if not victory. I do not rule out the possibility of loss for Revan in this contest though, battles can be unpredictable sometimes depending upon the circumstances, decisions made, and nature of the setting.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66Big fan of this DarthAnt fellow, thus figured I'd lend him a hand. 😄
Not according to Lucas.Lucas >>>>>>>>>>> your opinion, and any source you can bring forth.
Lucas refers to the PT era as the golden age of the jedi. However, Ant makes a pretty fair point. Logically, the group of Jedi who engage enemy force wields en masse on a regular basis would probably be superior in the area of direct saber and force combat. To add, Ant presents a canonical source to bolster his claim.
Fortunately for Ante, one can easily accept both Lucas and the KOTOR guidebook claims without contradiction. Indeed, there are multiple ways of assessing power and the golden age comment can be interpreted as indication that the PT Jedi Order has certain advantages over previous orders. In particular, the Jedi order was not marred by an equally powerful Sith Order and maintained a great deal of influence over the galaxy. What's more, for a vast number of years, the PT order was able to maintain a peaceful galaxy as well as recruit a wide range of force sensitives with diverse abilities. In that way, it far surpasses the order in the days of KOTOR and TOR.