Originally posted by Selenial
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Dafuq has Bastilla got on her, also Game mechanics. By your logic Atris lost in 10, and Atris is one of the best in the order, far superior to padawan Bastilla.
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To be fair.to bastila, she was tortured and had to fight through the Leviathan along side Revan and Carth before confronting Malak. So he.didn't beat her at her best. That's a fact.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
To be fair.to bastila, she was tortured and had to fight through the Leviathan along side Revan and Carth before confronting Malak. So he.didn't beat her at her best. That's a fact.
Well, that's true.
Bastila (with help) also fought through Revan's flagship to confront him, so that could be a feat too.
@Carthage
Still, I'll be opting for Bulq in Tier 8. His saber duel with Windu was awesome, Quinlan defeated him because of his own arrogance. He got owned by Count Dooku, but so was Obi-Wan. At the time of duel on Ruul Bulq was also superior to Ventress. I would place him in the same degree of Tier 8 with Fisto. Or even above, we can vote it. just my opinion.
I would also place Revan as top Tier 8, not medium Tier 8. And I would place Grievous in medium Tier 8, not top.
Tier 10
1. GM Skywalker/DE Darth Sidious
2. Yoda
3. Darth Caedus
Tier 9:
1. Count Dooku, Mace Windu, Anakin Skywalker
2. Lumiya, Darth Vader, Darth Tenebrous
Tier 8: Lightsaber Skill
1. Darth Maul/Asajj Ventress/Exar Kun/Jaina Solo/Obi Wan/Sora Bulq/Darth Venamis/Revan/Darth Plagueis
2. Ulic Qel Droma/Mara Jade Skywalker/Agen Kolar/Kit Fisto/Plo Koon/Darth Malgus/General Grievous
3. Kyle Katarn/Cade Skywalker/Darth Krayt/Saba Sebatyne/Saesee Tiin/Qui Gon Jinn
Tier 7:
1. Meetra Surik/Wrath II/Darth Malak/Raskta Lsu/HoT/Kyp Durron
2. Corran Horn/Leia Organa Solo/Ki Adi Mundi/Vodo Siosk Baas/Darth Bane/Quinlan Vos/Luminara Unduli/Ven Zallow/Scourge??/
3. Galen Marek??/Kenth Hamner/Anakin Solo/Shaak Ti/Adi Gallia/Aayla Secura/Xesh?/Anoon Bondara/Kao Cen Darach
Tier 6:
1. Savage Opress/Darth Zannah/Jaden Korr/Eeth Koth/Darth Wyyrlok/Satele Shan
2. Bastila Shan/Nejaa Halcyon/Kas'im/Barsenthor/Darth Nihl/Darth Talon/Tol Braga/
3 Gnost Dural/Darth Talon?
This is what I would actually change.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
To be fair.to bastila, she was tortured and had to fight through the Leviathan along side Revan and Carth before confronting Malak. So he.didn't beat her at her best. That's a fact.
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I have no idea, since I'm not interested in EU after ROTJ. But from what i read about her, and since she started as someone like Jerrec or Mara Jade, it's also hard to believe for me, that she wasn in legendary Vader's league. I feel (but I don't have a knowledge to actually state that) that she should be at least 1 Tier below.
Incorrect. I suggest you should play Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic by BioWare to comprehend this foreign event to you.
How about your tone it down a notch hm?
Bastila Shan states that, even upon Revan's awakening from torture, that he has nearly "fully recovered." By the fight, he would have been.
No. she states the following:
Bastila: "Don't try to move to quicky, you might not be fully recovered yet. Admiral Karath had his guards continue to torture you even after you passed out. "
-- KoTOR: Leviathan level.
She doesn't say he was fully recovered broski and I was talking about how Bastila was not at her best in that fight and she along with the crew(Revan and Kaidan AlenkoCarth) were tortured, had to go through the Leviathan forces(which would tire them out) and then she - alone, took on Malak. Clearly she wasn't at her best when she fought Malak. Again, that is a fact.
Hmm Tiin is a bit featless, but he has some hype. He was, after Anakin, the finest pilot in the Order, his TK Raw power was comperable/superior to Mace's, he was the greatest telepath in the Order and he's noted among great duelist like Fisto or Kolar.
Against Palpatine, many Jedi masters would down easily. I would place him in the same leage with Kolar and Fist (as nothing suggest, that he was well below them) and it looks like his potential in the Force was considerable.