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But like, how does that even remotely say Revan nearly lost? The actual depiction shows that Malak was out of his depth. You're taking one word from a stupidly obscure source over the actual material were presented with.

Conceded on the Jedi. I thought it was game mechanics and that it was 3-4 unless Revan destroyed them first

So Surik had less experience despite fighting in the same war, and the single handedly slaying hundreds of people using lightsabers, with her own lightsabers? Art thou serious, Anthony?

If you think a quote about a bloodline 300 years later shows her power, I agree, you're high.

Lol?

And how long was it before he was at the hawk? Hmm?
More than 15 seconds.

''Below Maul in power.''

ILS : I don't see Maul replicating what she did to that iteration of Galen, especially considering Felucia was tilted towards the Dark Side at that time. Ti also has her feat of deflecting Grievous' lightsaber blade enough for it not to get past her small barrier, and she has superior accolades to Maul like having "legendary" strength in the Force, and being a beacon of light in the Darkness on Felucia.

Lmfao.

1- Are you taking TFU force feats seriously ? Then you need to say Kota > Kenobi in the force. Which is stupid.
2- How about using TK on Grievous itself, instead of his sword. LOL. Mace crushed that piece of metal rubbish with a force crush, and you put Shaak Ti ahead of Mace because she deflected Grievous's sword with TK ?

Originally posted by Selenial
But like, how does that even remotely say Revan nearly lost? The actual depiction shows that Malak was out of his depth. You're taking one word from a stupidly obscure source over the actual material were presented with.

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We can debate this more in depth once other points are cleared up.

Bastila Shan defeats a freaking

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DARK JEDI!

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If that wasn't enough for you, she can kicked a guard to death in one hit.

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She pulls a Darth Bandon on a guard:

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And her main feat, she TK's Revan, Jolee, and Juhani:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlodmblZHNs&t=2m26s
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Also, she has a ton of quotes over how she's among the greatest heroes of Jedi Order, Republic, and Jedi Civil War.
Oh, and a couple sources link her greatness with Battle Meditation with her mastery command over the Force. Example:

****, didn't mean to hit send. Hold on Selenial, let me reply to the rest.
EDIT: Here we go:

Originally posted by Selenial
And how long was it before he was at the hawk? Hmm?
More than 15 seconds.

Oh yeah, by the way, since this isn't really a debate and rather a fun discussion, going to throw in that Bastila Shan was a "highly skilled duelist."

So the only sustenance in your argument was that Bastilla killed a dark Jedi.

You're hyping Surik, she killed hundreds.

Originally posted by Marco1907
''Below Maul in power.''

ILS : I don't see Maul replicating what she did to that iteration of Galen, especially considering Felucia was tilted towards the Dark Side at that time. Ti also has her feat of deflecting Grievous' lightsaber blade enough for it not to get past her small barrier, and she has superior accolades to Maul like having "legendary" strength in the Force, and being a beacon of light in the Darkness on Felucia.

Lmfao.

1- Are you taking TFU force feats seriously ? Then you need to say Kota > Kenobi in the force. Which is stupid.
2- How about using TK on Grievous itself, instead of his sword. LOL. Mace crushed that piece of metal rubbish with a force crush, and you put Shaak Ti ahead of Mace because she deflected Grievous's sword with TK ?

2. A lightsaber blade can cut through durasteel without friction, cut through beings who live in lava, ect, so Shaak Ti putting up a barrier potent enough to deflect a lightsaber blade is a good power feat. Mace crushing Grievous' armor is a decent power feat but it's not groundbreaking.

Well, this de-escalated quickly.

Originally posted by Selenial
But like, how does that even remotely say Revan nearly lost? The actual depiction shows that Malak was out of his depth. You're taking one word from a stupidly obscure source over the actual material were presented with.

Reminds me of someone else that does that. Can't remember who that was, though... 😛

Sooo... Meetra > Malak, right? That seems to be how that little 'debate' turned out.

Selenial conceded to all my points bruh, besides the Dark Jedi finale, which is still being discussed.

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(I consider a failure to respond to my points as a concession, by the way.)

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Selenial conceded to all my points bruh, besides the Dark Jedi finale, which is still being discussed.

Spoiler:
(I consider a failure to respond to my points as a concession, by the way.)

Yeah? But what if you're wrong, like you are here? 😛

Depends, do you consider yourself a active member of the KMC community?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Depends, do you consider yourself a active member of the KMC community?

What happens based on my answer?

Nothing... playing Webkinz with little sister so can't really respond. 😛

Well, I'm eating right now, so maybe I'll pitch in for Sel when I'm done.

Edit: I'd have to ask Sel first so she doesn't get mad at me if I'm mean to you 😛

Originally posted by ILS
1. They're a part of Legends canon so.. ehm.. yes. Kenobi has nothing to do with this debate.

2. A lightsaber blade can cut through durasteel without friction, cut through beings who live in lava, ect, so Shaak Ti putting up a barrier potent enough to deflect a lightsaber blade is a good power feat. Mace crushing Grievous' armor is a decent power feat but it's not groundbreaking.

1. Every character in TFU uses the force at maximum extend, using TFU feats to elevate characters is not fair in my point of view, but nevermind.

2. What I am saying here is, why Shaak Ti didn't used TK attack on Grievous if she is really superior on TK than Mace ? Ki Adi tried a force attack and failed, Shaak Ti tried and she failed, yet only Mace managed to stomp Grievous with the force not to mention he used force wave and force blast on droid army in the same series before, while Shaak Ti never did, in microseries Mace was the only second to Yoda in terms of TK, it was very clear. Not Shaak Ti or anyone.

Not everyone has shatterpoint and/or proficiency in Force Crush to the level of Mace. That doesn't necessarily make him more powerful than anyone who can't just crush Grievous, just more skilled/precise. As for why Shaak couldn't, she was years before her prime which is TFU, which is a fair justification given how Jedi improve as they age and gain combat experience. I don't think what Shaak did in the microseries matters compared to what she did in her prime during TFU.

Nihilus needs to be tier 10 at least, or tier 11 (above gm luke but below the ones).

2. What I am saying here is, why Shaak Ti didn't used TK attack on Grievous if she is really superior on TK than Mace ?

We all know, that she wasn't. TFU is still, after all, closer to movies and TCW in scale of powers then, for example old CW and comics that are basing on that show.
Basing on CW and TFU only, Mace is far superior to Ti and even movie Sidious. But we all know, that it's BS.
But in the same kinds of sources, Mace is > Ti in TK. Yoda is above him, Dooku is above him, Anakin and Maul might be above him as well. He might be rivaled by Tiin (again - the same kind of source - which is comic that is basing on old CW).
But all the others, even Kenobi are below Mace in TK department. And Mace has many other talents in the Force.