What's the best feats of thor & when is thor at his strongest? · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So, in summary:
Hulk is stronger than Thor.
Why?
Because Hulk did this.
Did Thor try, or try something similar?
No.
Why do you say he fails?
Because Hulk is stronger than Thor.
Why?
Because Hulk did this.
Etcetc etc
Thanks.

😂

Let me nip this in the bud.

Thor fought Cryptoman. Context. 50% of Thor power was given to Cryptoman while he retained 50% of his true power. Pretty even fight. If it was 100% for both, the results would be the same. Well, at one point Thor was getting merked (hope you seen this fight) and was at a disadvantage. In the end, it took plot to stop the android.

Let's move on.

As shown here, Cryptoman possessed 50% of Thor power. This Doctor got greedy and not only restored this robot to 50%of Thor power, he DOUBLED that power.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3114408-3722992211-Hulk__zps291d82fd.jpg.html

Well, Cryptoman and Hulk fight it out as shown here.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3114409-2423241097-Hulk__zps68b6697b.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3114410-1738528115-Hulk__zps49cb728b.jpg.html

Now remember, Cryptoman was already above Thor physically (not just a statement either...we KNOW his strength and durability levels). Cryptoman being on the losing end is given MORE power.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media-full//3114411-8848111281-Hulk__zpsfb201b09.jpg.html

the ending results.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3114412-0871561041-Hulk__zps8dda60a4.jpg.html

I can post another fight if you want.

The Sorrow Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor only overpowered Grey hulk there.

👆

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your capacity for such a great retort always astounds me.

I'm sure it does

Originally posted by abhilegend

A one mile long kryptonian dragon? You bet.
http://i.imgur.com/6Nvzo42.jpg

Wait did you just agree that it can bench press 1000x earth weight? That is a very foolish line of thinking don't you think?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Under the same writer Thor was restrained by two frost giants. If you think otherwise, explain why he wouldn't.

Again you keep trying to justify you claim with a lower showing. You've read enough comics by now to know not to follow such a misguided line of thinking. Yes there was a disparity. With what he did in godbomb, there should be no way the frost giants should be able to restrain him. But guess what? That's why planet busting is considered a high feat. And you are really bad at lowballing. And at least get facts straigh first. Aaron had him "severely weakened" to give background for readers of the upcoming events.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Why? In one scene Superman is just lifting something, in another he is fighting a character who is far stronger than he is. There is no strength disparity there.

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If you don't see the disparity here then you are either dumb(which I don't think you are) or outright in denial. That is why it's considered a high end feat. Heck Lobdell supposedly had him no longer holding back and exceeding what Dr. Veritas previously recorded during the H'el arc. Funny thing Clark was able to only produce mountain toppling blows. Powerful, but I'm pretty sure it's nothing like benching earth weight.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, you must not have read H'el on earth. Just one issue after that H'el casually overpowered Superman. He can't benchpress earth either, right?

That's a dumb question. I wouldn't be surprised if a writer has him do so.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, you are quite lost nowadays.
It does. Thor outright said it was a moon. All that is for squat when it was differentiated from being a planet. Neither does lightning cauterizes moons. Comics. Hahahahahahahahahaha. The excuses thorbags throw around. It was pretty explicitly showed to be a small part of the moon. He didn't do **** with the whole moon. Yeah, you are being totally stupid here with "stopped the whole moon from tearing apart" when the lightning only cauterized a small part of it. But is usual for you.

Smh.. During a heated battle Thor says "that's no dead moon". Two pages later the narration described it as "a scarred world in a distant corner of space". I don't
understand why you cling to it being a moon when "no empty moon" doesn't disqualify the possibility of it being more like a planet than a moon. Then we have clear narration calling it a "world". Last I checked narration holds more weight than character comments. It also has a core, a populace, and enough gravity to keep it's inhabitants grounded. In actuality there's more evidence of it being a planet more than a moon. Then again I shouldn't be surprised considering your sad track record of lowballing when butthurt.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So you don't have anything but typical "LOL dumb"? First sign of desperation.

No.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And you with your usual apology tactics for Thor. Haha, the usual thorbag response "Ya'll are just haters". Its ****ing pathetic.

No.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not really. From the same author.
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g340/Fernando072295/Thor01_zpsecd93328.jpg
Mjolnir itself was described to have enough power to shatter entire planets easily. In no way its a direct strength feat from Thor. Now cry more.

😂 And? That's old news and pretty much common knowledge for fans. It's also common knowledge that one has to supply the strength for Mjolnir to achieve such feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, they wouldn't. But Thor is a high herald in strength. Couple that with a weapon like mjolnir and they can destroy a planet by hitting that much as he did against Gorr. Tell that to smart drax. Ripped apart a star with his bare hands and destroyed two planets in one issue.

Again high end feat. The concept escapes you unfortunately. 🙁

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha. You are cute in your desperation.
Haha, this is pure comedy. Literally world shattering doesn't translate to world shattering strength you inane sycophant. Its the most pathetic attempt to highball Thor I've ever seen and considering the lengths to which Rage can go, its quite pathetic.

We al know who's desperate here.

What do you not understand? Aaron acknowledged Thor's tremendous strength by capping off his answer with words like "most epic and -- literally -- world-shattering scenes I've ever written". Simple.
http://marvel.com/news/comics/20249/thor_shaping_the_god_butcher_pt_2

Originally posted by abhilegend

So you can't comprehend such a straight statement? No wonder you are a thorbag.

I'm trying to get a clearer idea of your take on that scene. Apparently you're too scared of tripping in yourself again. And for the record, he was struggling throughout that whole scene considering he was ground zero of the godbomb.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And died after that. Survived for some time, great feat. Did you mention he died? No. Don't cry now if you got exposed again.
And no, dying after some time isn't tanking.

facepalm
You already know he died after. What are you "exposing" here? Dude... He took in a bomb at ground zero meant to kill all gods for all time. Again with your tactics.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor only overpowered Grey hulk there.

Actually no. He overpowered Green Hulk as well.

Greenie had a hold of him, but Thor was able to break the grip, picked him up, then threw Hulk away.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor only overpowered Grey hulk there.

You either didn't remember the scene correctly, or you're just being you, both of which, are not my problem.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm sure it does

Ooh, somebody doesn't know how sarcasm works.
Wait did you just agree that it can bench press 1000x earth weight? That is a very foolish line of thinking don't you think?
You said it, not me. And if it could overpower Superman with just its tail, it surely can bench press earth.
Again you keep trying to justify you claim with a lower showing. You've read enough comics by now to know not to follow such a misguided line of thinking.
Not really. It shows that Tor used more than his strength to destroy those planets. He used mjolnir.
Yes there was a disparity. With what he did in godbomb, there should be no way the frost giants should be able to restrain him. But guess what? That's why planet busting is considered a high feat. And you are really bad at lowballing. And at least get facts straigh first.
Yeah, you are making excuses again.
Aaron had him "severely weakened" to give background for readers of the upcoming events.
Due to loss of mjolnir. Just after that showing he is going toe to toe with new Thor after all.
If you don't see the disparity here then you are either dumb(which I don't think you are) or outright in denial. That is why it's considered a high end feat. Heck Lobdell supposedly had him no longer holding back and exceeding what Dr. Veritas previously recorded during the H'el arc.
That shows it was not a high showing.
Funny thing Clark was able to only produce mountain toppling blows.
According to H'el who is a faulty narrator at his best.
Powerful, but I'm pretty sure it's nothing like benching earth weight.
Sending shockwaves from Dr. Veritas' lab which was in a different dimension to the edge of space is a bad showing? I'm sure if such a showing had been done by Thor, you'd be dick riding it to death.
That's a dumb question. I wouldn't be surprised if a writer has him do so.
So why the double standard with the dragon?
Smh.. During a heated battle Thor says "that's no dead moon". Two pages later the narration described it as "a scarred world in a distant corner of space". I don't
understand why you cling to it being a moon when "no empty moon" doesn't disqualify the possibility of it being more like a planet than a moon. Then we have clear narration calling it a "world". Last I checked narration holds more weight than character comments. It also has a core, a populace, and enough gravity to keep it's inhabitants grounded. In actuality there's more evidence of it being a planet more than a moon. Then again I shouldn't be surprised considering your sad track record of lowballing when butthurt.
Such a long rant for discarding the word of your own idol? And no, flowery narration doesn't holds more weight than a character's words.
No.
No.
Yeah, you are pretty desperate now.
😂 And? That's old news and pretty much common knowledge for fans. It's also common knowledge that one has to supply the strength for Mjolnir to achieve such feats.
That didn't made any sense. At all. What are you babbling about now and what does that scan meant to suggest?
Again high end feat. The concept escapes you unfortunately. 🙁
We al know who's desperate here.
Yeah, you. I don't know why you can't grasp the simple fact that feats done by mjolnir=/=pure strength feat.
What do you not understand? Aaron acknowledged Thor's tremendous strength by capping off his answer with words like "most epic and -- literally -- world-shattering scenes I've ever written". Simple.
http://marvel.com/news/comics/20249/thor_shaping_the_god_butcher_pt_2
Which was done by mjolnir and thus not a pure strength feat. You are getting more desperate by each reply now. Good.
I'm trying to get a clearer idea of your take on that scene. Apparently you're too scared of tripping in yourself again. And for the record, he was struggling throughout that whole scene considering he was ground zero of the godbomb.
He was struggling and got defeated by a minute portion of godbomb before. After the gods prayed to him, he was able to absorb all of it. Seems pretty clear to me.

You already know he died after. What are you "exposing" here? Dude... He took in a bomb at ground zero meant to kill all gods for all time. Again with your tactics.

And died. What's so great about it? That he lasted a little longer?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Actually no. He overpowered Green Hulk as well.
Greenie had a hold of him, but Thor was able to break the grip, picked him up, then threw Hulk away.

Originally posted by Damborgson
You either didn't remember the scene correctly, or you're just being you, both of which, are not my problem.

Haha, WTF? Lifting someone over their head is overpowering now? Under PAD nonetheless?

That's some desperate shit right there.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by Damborgson
You either didn't remember the scene correctly, or you're just being you, both of which, are not my problem.

He's being abhi.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's being abhi.

Hello snake-eyes.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's being abhi.

*stupid.

But yeah. There isn't much point in arguing details like this to begin with. Let alone with something like him.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

The arrogance is nigh palpable here. I don't know why I even bother with someone like you.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ooh, somebody doesn't know how sarcasm works.

Waste of time... Smh....

Originally posted by abhilegend

You said it, not me. And if it could overpower Superman with just its tail, it surely can bench press earth.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not really. It shows that Tor used more than his strength to destroy those planets. He used mjolnir.[B]

Yes he used Mjolnir along with unprecedented "planetary" strength. 😉
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]
Yeah, you are making excuses again.[B]

No one is making excuses here. I'm pretty sure you understand regular portrayals, averages, and high end feats. Everyone can see through your play dumb routine here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]
Due to loss of mjolnir. [B]
What do you not understand about "severely weakened state"? You are worse than explaining to a 3 yr old. You come with the most ridiculous reasoning when cornered.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]
Just after that showing he is going toe to toe with new Thor after all.

And? That scan was from the new Thor #1. Same comic where Malekith cuts a part of his arm with Jarnbjorn. What is your point?

Originally posted by abhilegend

That shows it was not a high showing. According to H'el who is a faulty narrator at his best. Sending shockwaves from Dr. Veritas' lab which was in a different dimension to the edge of space is a bad showing? I'm sure if such a showing had been done by Thor, you'd be dick riding it to death.

No one is calling it a bad showing. Benching virtual earth weight is far and away more impressive than mountain toppling punches(by a country mile). And it was Veritas and not H'el who stated that he was exceeding previous strength levels. Also the punches came from his fortress which were felt at her lab located at the center of the earth. Sometimes I don't know whether you're playing dumb, or putting up smokescreens. Either way it's your usual go to move when you are cornered.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So why the double standard with the dragon?

Double standard? First off it was decaying. Second he destroyed it by blowing up an phukkun oil rig. You're telling , me it's H'el level? That's a no. And again it wasn't a "low showing". It's still a mile long Kryptonian dragon. But like his mountain toppling punches vs H'el, it is so considerably far below what he displayed while benching earth weight devoid of sunlight.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Such a long rant for discarding the word of your own idol? And no, flowery narration doesn't holds more weight than a character's words.

Wow this is hilarious. 😂
So character statements now outweigh clear, on-panel narration. Do you even hear yourself here? Smh..

And like I said, you dismissing that scene simply as pushing a mountain is laughable. The point in him even breaking off from the fight was because the planet was in danger of pretty much tearing up. You are the worst.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, you are pretty desperate now.

We all know who's desperate here.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That didn't made any sense. At all. What are you babbling about now and what does that scan meant to suggest?

What I've been saying all along. Mjolnir doesn't wreck things by itself. Thor's strength supplies much of the wrecking.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, you. I don't know why you can't grasp the simple fact that feats done by mjolnir=/=pure strength feat.

No. Feats done with Mjolnir is not feats done by Mjolnir. And no one is disputing the fact that he smacked Gorr around with Mjolnir resulting into worlds shattering around them. It's clear what you are trying to portray here. You are attributing the worlds shattering solely because of Mjolnir in the hopes of diminishing the strength he displayed. And for what? The ramifications of such strength displayed is too much butthurt for you?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Which was done by Mjolnir and thus not a pure strength feat. You are getting more desperate by each reply now. Good.

And still it is a feat that required incredible strength. Also read above.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He was struggling and got defeated by a minute portion of godbomb before. After the gods prayed to him, he was able to absorb all of it. Seems pretty clear to me.

Wow. My god the butchery of this scene is mind boggling. How you got to this conclusion is beyond me. First, there wasn't even a clear time frame of when the gods started praying to him. Second he seemed to be in incredible pain throughout the ordeal, from start to finish. Lastly where on panel was it stated that the prayers aided him?

Originally posted by abhilegend

And died. What's so great about it? That he lasted a little longer?

Pathetic. This doesn't even deserve a proper reply.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, WTF? Lifting someone over their head is overpowering now? Under PAD nonetheless?
That's some desperate shit right there.

Right. Just ignore the panel where Hulk is over Thor and has him by the shoulder and throat. So now Hulk just stood there and let Thor pick him up to be tossed? Mind boggling.

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Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by carver9
Hercules could have lifted a universe on his pinky toe...when we have a comparison of the two strength wise, that is all the proof we need.

Wrong. The comparison can be simply bad writing or a holding back Hercules. If Hercules lifts an Universe and Hulk dooesn't it doesn't mean that Hulk can do it, really simple. What Herc has done is Hercs feat. Maybe Hulk has the better strinking power and his HF gives him the advantage over Herc in a fight, but pure strength Herc showed that he is at least on Hulks level, on his best.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's bullshit.
Thor and Superman actually fought in a comic. It ended with superman knocking Thor the **** out after catching his all out hammer attack.
So yeah, the theory that Thor can match strength with superman in a comic is BS.

Your opinion, bro, mine differs. Thor oneshot Superman before this and temporality koed him with a Mjolnir throw, and in the fight Supes was on the ground when he palmed it, the fight, till then was pretty even and neither looked superior. One had to win, Superman did, the next bout might have a differen't outcome, as implied by Thor and thus the writers themselves.

You might disagree, but to each his own.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Wrong. The comparison can be simply bad writing or a holding back Hercules. If Hercules lifts an Universe and Hulk dooesn't it doesn't mean that Hulk can do it, really simple. What Herc has done is Hercs feat. Maybe Hulk has the better strinking power and his HF gives him the advantage over Herc in a fight, but pure strength Herc showed that he is at least on Hulks level, on his best.
Your opinion, bro, mine differs. Thor oneshot Superman before this and temporality koed him with a Mjolnir throw, and in the fight Supes was on the ground when he palmed it, the fight, till then was pretty even and neither looked superior. One had to win, Superman did, the next bout might have a differen't outcome, as implied by Thor and thus the writers themselves.
You might disagree, but to each his own.

So if it's said more than once and Herc has even admitted this, that means we ignore this and still go by lifting fts? Gotcha. Who's stronger, Darkseid or Herc?

Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by carver9
So if it's said more than once and Herc has even admitted this, that means we ignore this and still go by lifting fts? Gotcha. Who's stronger, Darkseid or Herc?

Darkseids strength is incalculable by default as his True form transcendes the Multiverse and his mere presence created a singularity that was almost the end of the Multiverse, to judge the strength of an Abstract is just laughable and pointles, beings above the Trans Tier can amp normally to any Strength they desire. I hope this helps to answer you question and that you can follow this bit of logic, my angry friend^^.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Darkseids strength is incalculable by default as his True form transcendes the Multiverse and his mere presence created a singularity that was almost the end of the Multiverse, to judge the strength of an Abstract is just laughable and pointles, beings above the Trans Tier can amp normally to any Strength they desire. I hope this helps to answer you question and that you can follow this bit of logic, my angry friend^^.

So DCNU Darkseid almost ended the Multiverse? Scans? If not, who's stronger, DCNU Darkseid or Herc?

Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by carver9
So DCNU Darkseid almost ended the Multiverse? Scans? If not, who's stronger, DCNU Darkseid or Herc?

DCnU Darkseid is still the same Darkseid as before, FC is still canon.

VastoLord1234 Senior Member

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
DCnU Darkseid is still the same Darkseid as before, FC is still canon.

What? no way, DCnU Darkseids history is completely retconned, its completely different to the pre-flashpoint darkseid. While FC may be canon, alongside every other pre-flashpoint story, it doesnt mean DCnU darkseid= to pre-flashpoint Darkseid.

Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
What? no way, DCnU Darkseids history is completely retconned, its completely different to the pre-flashpoint darkseid. While FC may be canon, alongside every other pre-flashpoint story, it doesnt mean DCnU darkseid= to pre-flashpoint Darkseid.

DCnU Darkseid is already Universal, as Anti-Monitor needs Universes to fight him. Also FC was already referred in the DCnU, in Batman comics for example. Convergence will further clarify everything.