Freedon Nadd
Senior Member
Originally posted by Sinious
No I said Nihilus drained on a planetary scale but it was against defenseless population and that doesn't mean he can kill extremely powerful individuals with drain as well.LOL where did Vitiate ever use devices or trinkets for combat?
Vitiate, the Sith Emperor of the TOR timeframe, is an influential character on the TOR multimedia project and thus attracts extensive attention. His further marketing through the timeline videos and The Old Republic: Revan made him more famed, especially the latter product, which gave him his backstory, but more importantly (to the battles forum) established a number of feats that many people have been using and, for the most part, overexaggerating or blowing out of proportion on some level. The Revan novel was not necessarily a good product, but it was attractive to many people due to the popularity of the titular character, Revan, which automatically promoted the novel. As a result, many people bought the product and became exposed to Vitiate as a character. His showings, from the novel, from implications in the timeline videos, and from the MMORPG video game The Old Republic itself, the initial source of the entire multimedia project, have been repeatedly used to suggest he is one of, or the, most powerful Sith Lord/Force user in history. While the former proposition may, but not conclusively, have merit, the latter proposition is completely false. I may make a blog to address the most powerful Sith Lord later, but the more pressing issue at the moment is Vitiate himself - the character, and how his feats are heavily misconceived by the majority of users on these (and other) forums, leading to misconstructions which can be found in almost every thread pertaining to the character.
At an initial glance, the nature of Vitiate's feats occur on a vast scale (I am referencing planetary scales), or within the parameters of his young age, or are simply seemingly impressive (perhaps built off a chain of other misconstrued concepts). The reality, however, is that the vast majority of his feats occurred within favorable circumstances. The obvious retort would be - he's a Sith, and like all other Sith, he would play within the most favorable circumstances for himself. However, this is not the same breed of "favorable circumstances" I am referring to. What I am referring to, is amplifying circumstances. Nearly all of Vitiate's feats occur while he is amped, or supported by multiple other Force users, or both. A large number of feats are also accomplished with prep. Few of his feats are accomplished by virtue of his own power (I will address these feats last of all).
And for the record, since this tidbit of information doesn't belong anywhere else, Vitiate is not even a lightsaber user. All of his feats are Force-related, and he has not only no feats with a lightsaber, but doesn't even wield one. In the Revan novel, he picks up Revan's lightsaber but doesn't really appear to know how to use it. In the TOR game, it appears he finally utilizes a lightsaber, although this is never shown in a cutscene and therefore is only game mechanics. His illusions did utilize a lightsaber, but they are just that - illusions. To be fair, you could argue they were duplicates of him, but even then, he is not a notable lightsaber wielder by any stretch of the imagination. No feats, no accolades, and logically, he is not a warrior.
Returning back to the main issue of Vitiate's manner of feats, a strong majority of these are accomplished through prep, support from multiple other Force users, or while he is simply amped. First addressing the ritual on Nathema, which is often brought up because it seems very impressive and even eclipses Nihilus's Draining of Katarr, the ritual was under extensive preparation and not done under his own power. there were no amps to speak of, but there was prep and also over 8,000 other Sith Lords supporting him. Now, somebody who has read The Old Republic: Revan may be quick to point out the Nyriss claimed it was only a hundred Sith Lords, not 8,000, but more recent sources claimed that it was eight thousand Sith. Not only that, but Nyriss herself only lived more than a millennium later, so she would not have the most reliable account. On the other hand, objective sources from a third-person perspective have suggested it was eight thousand Sith Lords, and those sources, covering the events as though through an omniscient perspective, would be more reliable. It is also revealed this ritual took place over the events of ten days - more than a week.
