Originally posted by thingy150don't know don't care, but it's clear that was the case in annihilation and it's not been retconed since then as far as I know.
How many times do you think drax has negated thanos's powers tho? I assume the majority is that drax does not have an advantage in negating thanos's power.....
Originally posted by Insane Titan
don't be a cocky little shit.I read what you said like you're totally trying to dismiss what he said.
Even Giffen the writer said the Drax he wrote negated Thanos powers.
It seems that you're confused as to what incident we were discussing.
Feel free to reread the exchange.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
don't know don't care, but it's clear that was the case in annihilation and it's not been retconed since then as far as I know.
Stoic has tried to say this has always been the case which is simply not true and has never been stated. Didn't drax say he could not do what he did again. They fought a bunch of times besides annihilation and it was never said drax did anything "kryptonite" like to thanos. He was just created to kill thanos which does not say anything in the way of him having a special effect on thanos, he is just powerful enough to hang with him.....
Originally posted by thingy150when they fought he didn't try to exactly kill him with his own powers though after annihilation
Stoic has tried to say this has always been the case which is simply not true and has never been stated. Didn't drax say he could not do what he did again. They fought a bunch of times besides annihilation and it was never said drax did anything "kryptonite" like to thanos. He was just created to kill thanos which does not say anything in the way of him having a special effect on thanos, he is just powerful enough to hang with him.....
also agree with krisblaze, we are not talking about annihilation, that is when drax had a special effect on thanos which is not the case in any other showing. Stoic has probably not seen anything but annihilation so he thinks that drax always has the special effect on thanos.
Drax was even shown to do something different then he normally does when he was glowing green as he ripped his heart out, the writer wanted you to know it was a different situation. Almost positive drax stated he could not do that again which shows it was a isolated incident....
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lMvYRHula00/Tl5RZYuKzxI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/ejrF9TlDgEM/s1600/DRAX.jpg
Drax glowing green was used to show it was a new found ability. Never once has he done this before or after this instance, stoic is wrong....
Drax has never been shown to have a special effect on thanos other than this so the rest of his fights with thanos are fair play for feats...
(edit) not all feats because they are different versions then current but my point is that drax does not have a "kryptonite" like effect on thanos.
gotta sleep, bye....
Drax does not have the skill to beat Gamora. Drax is either stronger than all of the guys that were unable to hurt Thannos as much as he has, or he has a special effect on Thanos, or he grows stronger when he is fighting Thanos. Drax has never been able to fight anyone on Thanos' level and remotely come close to winning. Drax got beaten down by Gladiator, so unless Gladiator is greater than Thanos, it does not make much sense. If this is the case, then Thor, and the Surfer are superior to Thanos, which we all know is not the case. When you try to explain the obvious to people, but they fail to understand it, you can only walk away scratching your head. Now how was Nova Prime able to beat the crap out of Drax, but not have a prayer against the Surfer? How difficult is it for people to come to the realization, that Drax was made specifically to destroy Thanos?
Originally posted by krisblaze
There's more to it than that as well.Drax specifically had to use the anti-matter bomb to kill him during Thanos Imperative.
For some reason the fanboys seem to think that Drax punching Thanos in the face means that he's his Kryptonite.
As opposed to playing dumb when you have a particular dislike for a character? Who else has Drax beaten of worth? Nova Prime beat him down like he was nothing. Gladiator defeated him, and hardly even tried when doing it. Now we have you talking about a class 80-100 being able to hurt Thanos when Thor could not hurt him, and Beta Ray Bill was beaten up convincingly. But what's you excuse? Well Uhm uhm, it was the writer. But uhm uhm, What about the Odin showing, and the Tyrant showing, and the Lord Mar-Vell showing, and the Power Gem Thor showing? Well uhm uhm, it was artist interpretation. I wouldn't be surprised if Drax was a class 40 seeing as he couldn't KO Angela with a sneak attack.
Originally posted by Stoic
As opposed to playing dumb when you have a particular dislike for a character? Who else has Drax beaten of worth? Nova Prime beat him down like he was nothing. Gladiator defeated, and hardly even tried when doing it. Now we have you talking about a class 80-100 being able to hurt Thanos when Thor could not hurt him, and Beta Ray Bill was beaten up convincingly. But what's you excuse? Well Uhm uhm, it was the writer. But uhm uhm, What about the Odin showing, and the Tyrant showing, and the Lord Mar-Vell showing, and the Power Gem Thor showing? Well uhm uhm, it was artist interpretation.
When you look at Drax's encounters with post-ress Thanos, you'll see that he doesn't do anything that's not within the realm of possibility.
For some reason, in your mind, this translates into Drax defeating Thanos.
When Thanos was weakened after being brought back and they attacked him, there was absolutely nothing that indicated Drax having a particular advantage against him.
Let's compare Groot's attacks;
Both of these affect him, but ultimately do nothing to stop him. There is nothing here that denotes Drax's attacks being specifically effective.
Now, when looking at the Thanos imperative fight, we see Drax shooting him with a gun and then hitting him with the anti-matter bomb. Unless Drax' unique (now invisible) aura somehow extends to his gun, there is once again nothing that denotes him having an advantage against Thanos. Hell, why would he even use a gun then? Further there is the fact they've been clearly shown to have the kind of advanced firepower needed to harm Thanos, as Rocket Raccoon noted in Thanos Imperative #1!
Drax shooting + antimatter bomb;
And when Thanos came back and Drax attacked him hand to hand, he wasn't able to do anything! What about this points to him being particularly effective? His performance was not above that of his team-mates, not in the slightest! In fact you could argue that Moondragon's shields were the most impressive;
They all looked equal against resurrected Thanos, with the exception of Gamora, whose godslayer broke against his skin.
Further let's have a look at this Angela showing, which is supposed to be so terrible:
At first we see Angela beating Gamora (They stalemate 2-3 pages before this).
Then she gets backup and they get the upper hand.
Then Drax comes in and hits her once, before they trade more blows and Starlord takes her out:
This is not a low showing for Drax.
His punch does the most damage to Angela barring Starlord finish, and Gamora's sword, which was able to pierce Angela's skin, actually breaks on Drax!
Originally posted by krisblaze
Further let's have a look at this Angela showing, which is supposed to be so terrible:At first we see Angela beating Gamora (They stalemate 2-3 pages before this).
Then she gets backup and they get the upper hand.
Then Drax comes in and hits her once, before they trade more blows and Starlord takes her out:
This is not a low showing for Drax.
His punch does the most damage to Angela barring Starlord finish, and Gamora's sword, which was able to pierce Angela's skin, actually breaks on Drax!
Who said it was a low showing for Drax? He clearly launched a sneak attack though, and it was incapable of KOing Angela. So I guess that Angela can take more abuse than Thanos, even though Thanos was capable of taking a hit to his head from Thor with Mjolnir. If you can't see what I am pointing out to you say so. It's not hard to understand what i have been getting at all along. Drax does his best work against Thanos, and no one else.
Originally posted by Stoic
Who said it was a low showing for Drax? He clearly launched a sneak attack though, and it was incapable of KOing Angela. So I guess that Angela can take more abuse than Thanos, even though Thanos was capable of taking a hit to his head from Thor with Mjolnir. If you can't see what I am pointing out to you say so. It's not hard to understand what i have been getting at all along. Drax does his best work against Thanos, and no one else.
When did Drax knock out Thanos?
I showed you clear examples of Drax not doing better than his other team-mates against Thanos.
Here's another example, Avengers Assemble #8.
When Thanos is falling down and is gangbanged. There is no sign of Drax's attack doing more against Thanos:
Originally posted by krisblaze
I never said that Drax defeated Thanos. You need to calm down with the whole rabid fanboy routine and start looking at what I'm writing.When you look at Drax's encounters with post-ress Thanos, you'll see that he doesn't do anything that's not within the realm of possibility.
For some reason, in your mind, this translates into Drax defeating Thanos.
When Thanos was weakened after being brought back and they attacked him, there was absolutely nothing that indicated Drax having a particular advantage against him.
Let's compare Groot's attacks;
Both of these affect him, but ultimately do nothing to stop him. There is nothing here that denotes Drax's attacks being specifically effective.
Now, when looking at the Thanos imperative fight, we see Drax shooting him with a gun and then hitting him with the anti-matter bomb. Unless Drax' unique (now invisible) aura somehow extends to his gun, there is once again nothing that denotes him having an advantage against Thanos. Hell, why would he even use a gun then? Further there is the fact they've been clearly shown to have the kind of advanced firepower needed to harm Thanos, as Rocket Raccoon noted in Thanos Imperative #1!
Drax shooting + antimatter bomb;
And when Thanos came back and Drax attacked him hand to hand, he wasn't able to do anything! What about this points to him being particularly effective? His performance was not above that of his team-mates, not in the slightest! In fact you could argue that Moondragon's shields were the most impressive;
They all looked equal against resurrected Thanos, with the exception of Gamora, whose godslayer broke against his skin.
All of this happens when Thanos is weakened from just being revived. This has nothing to do with what happens when they are trapped in the Cancerverse. Thanos had fully recovered by then, and still Drax was doing as much damage to him as Thor did when he had the Power Gem, or at least as much as when he hit him in the head when the Avengers fought the Cabal. It's not my rabid fanboy routine that's in question here, it's your deliberate attempts of throwing up a smoke screen, and feigning ignorance despite knowing most if not all of the abuse that Thanos has actually suffered from greater threats than Drax in his current form. And on the other side there's lil Thingy in the pants talking crap. I imagine that a character like him gets the sh1t beaten out of him quite often.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Where is this coming from?When did Drax knock out Thanos?
I showed you clear examples of Drax not doing better than his other team-mates against Thanos.
Here's another example, Avengers Assemble #8.
When Thanos is falling down and is gangbanged. There is no sign of Drax's attack doing more against Thanos:
What do you mean when did Drax KO Thanos? I never said that he KO'd Thanos, but neither has Thor to my knowledge. Drax put as much damage on Thanos as Thor did in their most recent encounter. Do you know which time I am talking about?
In these scans, Drax puts more damage on Thanos than Thor was able to, and gave him a better fight.
Originally posted by carver9http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19827119/vs5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19827120/vs6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19827122/vs7.jpg.html
"there's lil Thingy in the pants talking crap." im in your pants?
"I imagine that a character like him gets the sh1t beaten out of him quite often."
been in a few fights, never lost.....
I have already proven that the only time drax has had a negative effect on thanos was during annihilation. Not even sure if that is what you guys are talking about anymore but the thread remains to be gamora vs drax and you remain to have not proven gamora stronger than drax.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Where is this coming from?When did Drax knock out Thanos?
I showed you clear examples of Drax not doing better than his other team-mates against Thanos.
Here's another example, Avengers Assemble #8.
When Thanos is falling down and is gangbanged. There is no sign of Drax's attack doing more against Thanos:
Also this is not the encounter that I'm talking about. I specifically said when the Cabal fought the Avengers, and Thane (Thanos' son) turned him to stone. In that scene Thor does less damage to Thanos than Drax did in the scans that I posted in the last post before this one.
