Paris Rampage

Started by Newjak9 pages

Originally posted by Quincy
Are those polls basically stating that there are islamics who are saying "Oh yes I agree with the men with the guns they should shoot everybody"

or are they saying "Yeah we believe in the same things save for the fact that you shouldn't shoot everybody about it."

It could be those.

It could also be "Yeah we live in poor lands where most of you could give two sh*ts about us unless you're trying to take something from us. At least these groups are pretending to care about us and trying to offer something better." It is surprising how often that happens in history.

Originally posted by Newjak
My problem with this statement is that you think people are excusing the actions of Islamic extremists and condoning the actions of Al Queda, ISIS, Taliban.

All most people are trying to say is look at yourself before you cast an entire stone on such a large group of people. The group of people being those who worship Islam.

Christians have Army of God, KKK, Neo-Nazis and there are Christian tyrants in places like Africa that condone groups murdering other groups based on Ethnic/Religious backgrounds.

Condone the actions of the groups but don't generalize the whole of Islam based on those groups. That kind of baseless, uneducated talk is to blame for a lot of problems between people.

I find it funny that whenever terrorists run through streets in Paris, throw planes into buildings and beheads reporters in the name of Allah, someone finds relevance talking about "Christian Army of God in Africa"

As anyone from Africa knows. God left Africa long time ago.

This has been like the fifth discussion where we are discussing somone killing in the name of Allah and someone wants to talk about Christians in Africa.

Get on point.

Originally posted by Bentley
It wasn't me who brought India into the mix my friend. If you also want to discuss that (it doesn't seem to be the case?) I tell you the same thing I told the person who actually brought it up: make a different thread.

Otherwise, I'd refrain to laugh at someone and hone my reading skills...

J'ai d'autres chats a fouetter que de m'amuser avec vos antagonismes ultra-etatsuniens.

You're might be happy about your arguments, but in Europe the ones using them will be literal nazis. Blame games aren't great war stratégies. I rather have unity in my side.

My apologies, whoever brought that up is throwing a prayer trying to derail subject and find common issue.

It was Rob. I should have known. He's always defending Islam as usual. I think he is Muslim. I can't see such defense in the name of a religion that acts like this.

Your alright🙂

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
My apologies, whoever brought that up is throwing a prayer trying to derail subject and find common issue.

It was Rob. I should have known. He's always defending Islam as usual. I think he is Muslim. I can't see such defense in the name of a religion that acts like this.

Your alright🙂

Incorrect. I didn't mention India either.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect. I didn't mention India either.

Yes and the people bringing up Africa didn't being that up either. While we at it, let's talk about Columbia drug cartels and those killings..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes and the people bringing up Africa didn't being that up either. While we at it, let's talk about Columbia drug cartels and those killings..

No, I didn't mention India in here. Go back and read if you have to.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I find it funny that whenever terrorists run through streets in Paris, throw planes into buildings and beheads reporters in the name of Allah, someone finds relevance talking about "Christian Army of God in Africa"

As anyone from Africa knows. God left Africa long time ago.

This has been like the fifth discussion where we are discussing somone killing in the name of Allah and someone wants to talk about Christians in Africa.


This is an absolutely ridiculous argument, on par with Bill O'Reilly's "tide comes in, tide goes out" defense of Intelligent Design.

You could make the same argument that "as everyone knows, God left the Middle East a long time ago" to dismiss any mention of Muslim extremism in the Middle East.

Somewhat of a "No True Scotsman"

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I find it funny that whenever terrorists run through streets in Paris, throw planes into buildings and beheads reporters in the name of Allah, someone finds relevance talking about "Christian Army of God in Africa"

As anyone from Africa knows. God left Africa long time ago.

This has been like the fifth discussion where we are discussing somone killing in the name of Allah and someone wants to talk about Christians in Africa.

Get on point.

Technically the Army of God I was talking about is American based.

Regardless the reason people bring up the Christian groups that support injuring or murdering other people is to counter certain arguments. Mostly people that come in and make broad sweeping remarks on all Islamic people or groups. The point of bringing up the Christian bad groups is to draw parallels between the two. So that people may understand that making such broad non-backed statements is not productive.

Basically you are judging Islam on the actions of a few groups, yet you can do the same to those you claim to be Christians. You can do it with basically any grouping whether by nationality, ethnicity, religion, or favorite sports team. Most people choose to bring up Christianity is because it is often most relatable as a topic to people making the claim of Islam is all or the worst by showing hey you guys have no right to make such claims.

I can spell it out for you though.

The are many groups that identify as Islamic that are not good and need to be dealt with. But much like most groups, simply trying to demonize the whole of Islam based on the few often just leads to bad blood among the numerous groups that identify as Islamic that either would side with us, or just don't care. You've now would have alienated those friendly or could be friendly groups so I'm glad you are not running our responses on these matters.

Originally posted by Newjak
Technically the Army of God I was talking about is American based.

Regardless the reason people bring up the Christian groups that support injuring or murdering other people is to counter certain arguments. Mostly people that come in and make broad sweeping remarks on all Islamic people or groups. The point of bringing up the Christian bad groups is to draw parallels between the two. So that people may understand that making such broad non-backed statements is not productive.

Basically you are judging Islam on the actions of a few groups, yet you can do the same to those you claim to be Christians. You can do it with basically any grouping whether by nationality, ethnicity, religion, or favorite sports team. Most people choose to bring up Christianity is because it is often most relatable as a topic to people making the claim of Islam is all or the worst by showing hey you guys have no right to make such claims.

I can spell it out for you though.

The are many groups that identify as Islamic that are not good and need to be dealt with. But much like most groups, simply trying to demonize the whole of Islam based on the few often just leads to bad blood among the numerous groups that identify as Islamic that either would side with us, or just don't care. You've now would have alienated those friendly or could be friendly groups so I'm glad you are not running our responses on these matters.

The constant and consist downplaying of ISIS, Al Queda, Taliban and the lesser known factions are the reason we are in this mess in the first place.

Just 6 months ago ISIS according to people here was "not even a threat"

Look where we are today, now they are completely taking over the middle east.

I don't call that a small group. You know we are talking about these extremist groups and their following, to infere that I have over generalized is incorrect.

I know exactly what I am talking about and I have fought and engaged these people in the front lines in both theaters over there.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
This is an absolutely ridiculous argument, on par with Bill O'Reilly's "tide comes in, tide goes out" defense of Intelligent Design.

You could make the same argument that "as everyone knows, God left the Middle East a long time ago" to dismiss any mention of Muslim extremism in the Middle East.

Obviously God did not leave the middle east because they are killing in his name.

I have not watched O'Reilly's in ages, it sounds like you are watching him more then me.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Obviously God did not leave the middle east because they are killing in his name.

I have not watched O'Reilly's in ages, it sounds like you are watching him more then me.


I didn't say you watched Bill O'Reilly. I was likening your argument to one of his. I actually find Bill O'Reilly to be the only sane person on FOX, certainly one of the few people on that network for whom I have any respect.

And obviously God hasn't left Africa because Africans are killing people in his name...

Originally posted by Omega Vision

And obviously God hasn't left Africa because Africans are killing people in his name...

No you 😛

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
...I have not watched O'Reilly's in ages, it sounds like you are watching him more then me.

He's never watched O'Reilly's show. He's just repeating some lie he read on the internet.

Let's be realistic here.
If you read the Quran in its entirety, you will find out that such actions are highly favorable. It's called Jihad, where adherents should oppose anything non-Muslim and are rewarded with worldly pleasures in heaven.

The fact is, the Quran is a book filled with ideologies of hatred and fear-mongering.
Every Surah has a negative view of non-adherrents, and it keeps repeating the same shit over and over again, forcing the reader that everything written is right and justifiable.
It is the opposite of Christianity's Bible, where hope and love are the main focal points.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
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It is the opposite of Christianity's Bible, where hope and love are the main focal points.

Wow! You've never read all of the bible. 😱

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Let's be realistic here.
If you read the Quran in its entirety, you will find out that such actions are highly favorable. It's called Jihad, where adherents should oppose anything non-Muslim and are rewarded with worldly pleasures in heaven.

The fact is, the Quran is a book filled with ideologies of hatred and fear-mongering.
Every Surah has a negative view of non-adherrents, and it keeps repeating the same shit over and over again, forcing the reader that everything written is right and justifiable.
It is the opposite of Christianity's Bible, where hope and love are the main focal points.

People like Rob and Omega ignore this though.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Let's be realistic here.
If you read the Quran in its entirety, you will find out that such actions are highly favorable. It's called Jihad, where adherents should oppose anything non-Muslim and are rewarded with worldly pleasures in heaven.

The fact is, the Quran is a book filled with ideologies of hatred and fear-mongering.
Every Surah has a negative view of non-adherrents, and it keeps repeating the same shit over and over again, forcing the reader that everything written is right and justifiable.

Have you read the Qur'an first to last page?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It is the opposite of Christianity's Bible, where hope and love are the main focal points.

I feel as if you read the Bible (I have read it, btw), you ignored a lot of it, predominately the Old Testament where it can be better described as Murder Inc., but there's some nice death threats and damnation in the NT as well. Matthew 11:20-24 is a nice one.

Originally posted by Robtard
Have you read the Qur'an first to last page?

I feel as if you read the Bible (I have read it, btw), you ignored a lot of it, predominately the Old Testament where it can be better described as Murder Inc., but there's some nice death threats and damnation in the NT as well.

Where does the bible it teach to kill and murder one another, I'm pretty sure that's against the ten commandments.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
People like Rob and Omega ignore this though.

What exactly have I "ignored" now? Because I feel you're attribution thoughts/actions to me which I do and/or did not ever express again.