Originally posted by juggerman
Still not really quantifable since a time frame wasn't given. It could have taken him a month for all we know. He could have painted the dark side and got back just in time for the symbol to be rotated enough to be seen on Earth.The bank scene is a good example of his speed, the moon not so much
"For starters, the moon is not stuck in place with one side facing us. Our lunar companion rotates while it orbits Earth. It’s just that the amount of time it takes the moon to complete a revolution on its axis is the same it takes to circle our planet — about 27 days. As a result, the same lunar hemisphere always faces Earth."
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No. Clark was crossing half the earth in seconds.
I was referring to the bank scene remember. Hancock can move so fast that he becomes invisible. Superman at his fastest is still visible to the naked eye (though barely) and is seen as a blur.
Besides, I don't recall any proof that Superman crossed half the earth in seconds. One of the biggest problems of MOS is that it has no sense of a timeline. You don't get an idea how many hours or days or whatever passes in between scenes.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I was referring to the bank scene remember. Hancock can move so fast that he becomes invisible. Superman at his fastest is still visible to the naked eye (though barely) and is seen as a blur.Besides, I don't recall any proof that Superman crossed half the earth in seconds. One of the biggest problems of MOS is that it has no sense of a timeline. You don't get an idea how many hours or days or whatever passes in between scenes.
When he learned to fly he was in the North Pole, he takes off, then he ends up un Africa, then somewhere else, then the Grand Canyon, then space.
All we know is that it was one month from the time Hancock flew away to save both him and Mary, and when he called Ray. We also know that it is literally impossible to have a logo that size on the moon and not have Ray(or anyone else)didn't notice it while out all night on the boardwalk with his family. It had to have been done very quickly.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
When he learned to fly he was in the North Pole, he takes off, then he ends up un Africa, then somewhere else, then the Grand Canyon, then space.
Yeah sure, but you don't know how long it took him to get to those places. Just because the movie did it in condensed form doesn't mean that he only took that short to go to those places. We literally have no way to measure the time it took for him to fly through all those.
In any case, this doesn't prove that he's faster than Hancock anyway, unless we can show Hancock covering the same distance at a slower rate.
You're ignoring the simple fact that I've pointed out: When Hancock uses his super speed he turns invisible. When Superman uses his speed, he turns into a blur.
Originally posted by KingD19
All we know is that it was one month from the time Hancock flew away to save both him and Mary, and when he called Ray. We also know that it is literally impossible to have a logo that size on the moon and not have Ray(or anyone else)didn't notice it while out all night on the boardwalk with his family. It had to have been done very quickly.
Does it really matter, he painted the moon with no given time on the subject. Its unquantifiable.
He had to point out to a man who was outside in the middle of the night surrounded by people that he'd painted the Logo on the moon. He also mentioned he was out of cell range when Ray tried to call him and told him to look up, which makes it seems like he just got finished and came back. All in a short enough amount of time that Ray and the other people were just starting to realize what he'd done.
Originally posted by KingD19
He had to point out to a man who was outside in the middle of the night surrounded by people that he'd painted the Logo on the moon. He also mentioned he was out of cell range when Ray tried to call him and told him to look up, which makes it seems like he just got finished and came back. All in a short enough amount of time that Ray and the other people were just starting to realize what he'd done.
Ok all you have proved is he's a really good painter. Maybe he should get a job at Sherman Williams
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ok all you have proved is he's a really good painter. Maybe he should get a job at Sherman Williams
So you're ignoring the fact it's been 30 days since the time he left and the end of the movie. There is no way the world didn't freak out if a big ass red heart was painted on the moon in any period of time up until that point. There was no way Ray and the others wouldn't have known unless he did it that night. Does that make sense to you?
Originally posted by KingD19
So you're ignoring the fact it's been 30 days since the time he left and the end of the movie. There is no way the world didn't freak out if a big ass red heart was painted on the moon in any period of time up until that point. There was no way Ray and the others wouldn't have known unless he did it that night. Does that make sense to you?
So what you are saying is you have zero proof of onscreen feats, and you are speculating everything else. Based on Kal's speed on earth, he could have easily flew to the moon and done the same thing. So I have solid speed feats on earth, and you have speculation..
Because he flew to the moon, acquired millions to billions of gallons of paint, painted it, and came back all before the hundreds of people who had spent all night outside noticed it.
They didn't begin to notice the All-Heart logo until Hancock pointed it out to Ray and it shocked the hell out of him, which means he didn't know until just that moment. The world didn't know or it would have been news and Ray would have mentioned it in the conversation.
The Moon is nearly 240,000 miles from Earth. Hancock's moon feat > Flying around the Earth in seconds.
The speed he had to use to do that puts him above Clark.
So wait did Hancock fly to the moon with a gigantic bucket of paint and somehow it survived the trip and didn't freeze in space..And then how did he unfreeze it and keep it unfrozen -450c in space and -173c on the moon? I don' t recall him having heat vision. And if somehow he managed to unfreeze it, liquid in space floats and its less gravity on the moon how does he get the paint to go where he wants, I just painted my house and painting is very hard even on earth in a warm house with normal gravity..
And what is your proof in the first place he used paint? Maybe under the grey ash and rock the earth is red and he got a big broom and sweept it all away?
We can't be sure of how he did it, but there's a gigantic logo(many miles in diameter) on the moon, made by him and nobody noticed it until he got back to Earth and pointed it out to Ray. My point stands. That's faster than MoS was shown to be.
Even the earlier point I made of him being completely invisible and snatching the bank robbers away in a gust of wind. The Kryptonians as fast as they were could always be seen. Not reacted to by normal people for the most part, but seen. Hancock just disappeared and the goons in the bank disappeared too. In fact the head bad guy was freaking out because they just vanished.
He also casually brushed aside an RPG.
Originally posted by ares834
Still the idea that Hancock flew to the moon, painted it, and flew back in seconds or even minutes isn't supported by the film.
No, nothing like that. A single night is plausible though, as Ray would have had to have his head stuck up his ass to not have heard the news of "Giant Red Marks Appearing On Moon" from newspapers, television, the internet, people etc.
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialYou're right, he did all this so fast the paint didn't freeze!
So wait did Hancock fly to the moon with a gigantic bucket of paint and somehow it survived the trip and didn't freeze in space..And then how did he unfreeze it and keep it unfrozen -450c in space and -173c on the moon? I don' t recall him having heat vision. And if somehow he managed to unfreeze it, liquid in space floats and its less gravity on the moon how does he get the paint to go where he wants, I just painted my house and painting is very hard even on earth in a warm house with normal gravity..And what is your proof in the first place he used paint? Maybe under the grey ash and rock the earth is red and he got a big broom and sweept it all away?
What a speed feat!