Hancock vs MOS Superman

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So wait, what makes him faster then Clark who was going from one part of the globe to the other in seconds? Because he flew to the moon and painted it?

As I said previously, you have no proof that it only took him seconds to do this. There was no way to measure time between how long he flew to those places.

And again, there's no proof that Hancock can't move that fast.

Besides, I don't understand why we're comparing flying speed here, it's not like they're going for a race. Why not compare their speed while in combat, where it's clear that Hancock is faster.

Originally posted by KingD19
We can't be sure of how he did it, but there's a gigantic logo(many miles in diameter) on the moon, made by him and nobody noticed it until he got back to Earth and pointed it out to Ray. My point stands. That's faster than MoS was shown to be.

Even the earlier point I made of him being completely invisible and snatching the bank robbers away in a gust of wind. The Kryptonians as fast as they were could always be seen. Not reacted to by normal people for the most part, but seen. Hancock just disappeared and the goons in the bank disappeared too. In fact the head bad guy was freaking out because they just vanished.

He also casually brushed aside an RPG.

My point exactly, it was not paint..

Originally posted by FrothByte
As I said previously, you have no proof that it only took him seconds to do this. There was no way to measure time between how long he flew to those places.

And again, there's no proof that Hancock can't move that fast.

Besides, I don't understand why we're comparing flying speed here, it's not like they're going for a race. Why not compare their speed while in combat, where it's clear that Hancock is faster.

There was a time log, are you kidding me.. 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
My point exactly, it was not paint..

Does it make you feel better that it wasn't paint?

Originally posted by KingD19
Does it make you feel better that it wasn't paint?

You said it was paint..

Originally posted by KingD19
The Kryptonians as fast as they were could always be seen. Not reacted to by normal people for the most part, but seen.

Not true, Faora was moving that fast when fighting the soldiers, just because one director wanted to capture the action, and another wanted to save money by not fliming or using CG, means nothing.

As fast as Kal was traveling at his highest speeds, are you trying to suggest that because they were filmed and on screen visible to us, it makes him slower? So then the audience should be looking at nothing on screen according to this philosophy of screen directing..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You said it was paint..

So out of the whole thing, me saying it was paint(as it looks like paint) is so important that you feel the night to extrapolate about it? What it is doesn't really matter, it looked like paint so I called it paint. It could be red spray paint, it could be dust, whatever.

But you pointed it out so kudos. Fact still remains that going to the moon, getting up the logo and getting back all within the span of a night is more impressive than Clark flying around the Earth. Because he had to fly 240,000 miles to get to the moon, get the logo up and fly 240,000 miles back before anyone noticed. That's 480,000 miles in a very short span of time. Much faster than Clark has shown to be.

As for Faora, she blurred around, hitting them as she was in the middle of super speed dashes, but they could still see her even if they couldn't react.

Originally posted by KingD19
So out of the whole thing, me saying it was paint(as it looks like paint) is so important that you feel the night to extrapolate about it? What it is doesn't really matter, it looked like paint so I called it paint. It could be red spray paint, it could be dust, whatever.

But you pointed it out so kudos. Fact still remains that going to the moon, getting up the logo and getting back all within the span of a night is more impressive than Clark flying around the Earth. Because he had to fly 240,000 miles to get to the moon, get the logo up and fly 240,000 miles back before anyone noticed. That's 480,000 miles in a very short span of time. Much faster than Clark has shown to be.

As for Faora, she blurred around, hitting them as she was in the middle of super speed dashes, but they could still see her even if they couldn't react.

Actually Clark being able to travel say 30-40 thousand miles in seconds would get him to the moon in less time.

Originally posted by KingD19
So out of the whole thing, me saying it was paint(as it looks like paint) is so important that you feel the night to extrapolate about it? What it is doesn't really matter, it looked like paint so I called it paint. It could be red spray paint, it could be dust, whatever.

But you pointed it out so kudos. Fact still remains that going to the moon, getting up the logo and getting back all within the span of a night is more impressive than Clark flying around the Earth. Because he had to fly 240,000 miles to get to the moon, get the logo up and fly 240,000 miles back before anyone noticed. That's 480,000 miles in a very short span of time. Much faster than Clark has shown to be.

As for Faora, she blurred around, hitting them as she was in the middle of super speed dashes, but they could still see her even if they couldn't react.

They were not reacting, they had "im ****ed eyes"

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They were not reacting, they had "im ****ed eyes"

This just proved the point I made. They couldn't react, but they still saw her. They had I'm f*cked eyes because they saw her coming and couldn't do anything about it.

You can see a car coming but still not be able to react in time to avoid getting run over.

It does stand to reason that Kal's flight speed increases in the vacuum of space and why he specifically left the atmosphere in order to travel to the Indian Ocean in a very short time. eg Voyager 1 travels at 38,000 mph.

But on Earth, none of the Krptonians were shown flying/moving faster than Hancock.

Based off his distances covered on earth without him going into space it's fast enough to match or exceed Hancocks speed.

There is no actual evidence based off topographical locations to now guess how fast he was going.

With Clark we can base his speed on the locations on the earth he was moving.

If you move to science it's stated that if you can control anti gravity you can exceed light speed. The anti gravity field is method of flight shown in the movie. Hancocks was not shown to generate anti gravity field like kryptonians.

Originally posted by KingD19
This just proved the point I made. They couldn't react, but they still saw her. They had I'm f*cked eyes because they saw her coming and couldn't do anything about it.

You can see a car coming but still not be able to react in time to avoid getting run over.

Different circumstances.

What are Hancock combat speed feats? Hancock flew fast and grabbed them. Is that a win now over kryptonians?

And again, there's no proof that Hancock can't move that fast.

"Just because Hancock hasn't moved that fast doesn't mean he can't"

What an A grade set of logic we have here, folks

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"Just because Hancock hasn't moved that fast doesn't mean he can't"

What an A grade set of logic we have here, folks

we've already seen him move faster than Superman ever has (bank scene) so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do the same.

Originally posted by FrothByte
we've already seen him move faster than Superman ever has (bank scene) so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do the same.

Lol, no.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lol, no.

Care to prove it? Show me an instance where Superman moved fast enough that he was practically invisible.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Care to prove it? Show me an instance where Superman moved fast enough that he was practically invisible.

Invisible to who, the camera?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Invisible to who, the camera?

To the people around him and to us the audience.

Originally posted by FrothByte
To the people around him and to us the audience.

I've walked behind people completely unnoticed, does that automatically make me as fast as Hancock?