Vitiate: Overrated or Underrated?

Started by Nephthys19 pages

Originally posted by The_Tempest
facepalm

That would be a duh.

You're cute when you're mad.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
The set up was most likely meant to be very similar, but the outcome was very different, so I don't see how parity is implied given that the outcome (the fight) was very different.

You mean like how Vitiate won his fight and Sidious didn't?

DE Sidious is a great deal more powerful than Vitiate. The raw power at his disposal and his command over it, makes him a far more powerful force user than Vitiate

You have not given sufficient evidence to be stating this.

Force storm. Without prep and rituals, Vitiate has done nothing that comes close. Even with prep, rituals and aid, Vitiate hasn't summoned anything equal to the power of Sidous force storm which can tear through space/time.

Wonderful. While it is undoubtedly impressive, Vitiate has done many things Sidious hasn't. And I'll be curious to see what happens with Vitiate's ritual to supposedly destroy the galaxy.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You mean like how Vitiate won his fight and Sidious didn't?

No, I mean the difference in the fight. Sidious doesn't run into sabers when close to one.

Sidious doesn't run into sabers when close to one.

You're right.. He runs away.

When does Sidious run away?

Against Mace? Nope. He had a plan for that.
Against Yoda? Nope, forced him to flee.
Against Luke? He lost for real that time, but he didn't run.

Lol.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
No, I mean the difference in the fight. Sidious doesn't run into sabers when close to one.

Well you said the outcome of the fight, and the outcome of the Fortress fight and B team fight are indeed different. In that Sidious lost and Vitiate won. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Also you're referring to a different fight altogether there. But Vitiate's never been judo-slammed by a pregnant woman or killed by a smuggler, so I wonder who's really the kewlest Sith.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
When does Sidious run away?

Against Mace? Nope. He had a plan for that.
Against Yoda? Nope, forced him to flee.
Against Luke? He lost for real that time, but he didn't run.

He ran from Yoda initially.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol.

Well you said the outcome of the fight, and the outcome of the Fortress fight and B team fight are indeed different. In that Sidious lost and Vitiate won. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Also you're referring to a different fight altogether there. But Vitiate's never been judo-slammed by a pregnant woman or killed by a smuggler, so I wonder who's really the kewlest Sith.


See how easy it is to create a certain scenario in your head to desperately try to make your point? S66 is the best at this.

Vitiate would get butchered alive by DE Luke, Yoda, Amped Mace 😬

Originally posted by carthage
Vitiate would get butchered alive by DE Luke, Yoda, Amped Mace 😬

By that baseless logic, all 3 would be mind raped by Vitiate. 😬

Originally posted by Angelalex242
When does Sidious run away?

Against Mace? Nope. He had a plan for that.
Against Yoda? Nope, forced him to flee.
Against Luke? He lost for real that time, but he didn't run.

Yeah, but Vitiate did many things that Sidious hasn't.

Originally posted by psmith81992
By that baseless logic, all 3 would be mind raped by Vitiate. 😬

Not before they blitz him because Vitiate needs a nexus to amp himself to even keep up with any of the them👆

What feats off nexus does Vitiate have to suggest he can keep up with any of the three?

Originally posted by carthage
Not before they blitz him because Vitiate needs a nexus to amp himself to even keep up with any of the them👆

What feats off nexus does Vitiate have to suggest he can keep up with any of the three?

His space station wasn't a nexus. Nathema wasn't a nexus until he made it so. Kaas wasn't a nexus until he made it so. Should I go on? What feats do those 3 have that suggest they can keep up with him? 👆

Originally posted by psmith81992
His space station wasn't a nexus. Nathema wasn't a nexus until he made it so. Kaas wasn't a nexus until he made it so. Should I go on? What feats do those 3 have that suggest they can keep up with him? :up"

He hard to charge power in order to dispatch them 👆,r and no feats of his suggest he could respond to them in time in a close up situation.. Luke, Yoda, and Mace are easily faster than Hero or Revan, and could easily take him out based on their speed showings. Not sure why you're bringing up Nathema or Kaas, obviously a ritual has nothing applicable in combat and he was amped in his showing with Hero

Again what feats does Vitiate have to suggest he wouldn't be blitzed by Amped Mace, Yoda, or Luke off nexus

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well you said the outcome of the fight, and the outcome of the Fortress fight and B team fight are indeed different. In that Sidious lost and Vitiate won. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Also you're referring to a different fight altogether there. But Vitiate's never been judo-slammed by a pregnant woman or killed by a smuggler, so I wonder who's really the kewlest Sith.

"the outcome (the fight)"

Thought you would grasp, especially since I elaborated.

Neither has Sidious, and as far as Han shooting him, well Sidious intended to die anyway. Was that the case when Vitiate ran into the saber? Just wondering.

I'm not sure why this whole Han shooting Sidious thing keeps coming up, because as I recall there was some context behind it, with Sidious' body decaying ontop of being distracted or some such.

So it's not like Han shot a full, healthy Sidious.

Also ha at Han Solo being just a smuggler. He's anything but really.

Again what feats does Vitiate have to suggest he wouldn't be blitzed by Amped Mace, Yoda, or Luke off nexus

Wonderful negative argument. You've still yet to show how those 3 are going to blitz him.. I'll wait but based on your two previous posts, I won't hold my breath.

Neither has Sidious, and as far as Han shooting him, well Sidious intended to die anyway. Was that the case when Vitiate ran into the saber? Just wondering.

Killer rationalization. Except Sidious only intended to enter Anakin's body, not get shot in the back. Unless of course you're suggesting that was his plan all along (lol).

On Han: Sidious's plan was to inhabit a younger body at the time. So he was pulling a 'strike me down and I shall only become more powerful' type thing at the time. He LET himself get shot on purpose. And it was kind of dumb of Han to shoot him.

On Yoda: A tactical retreat is sound strategy at times. Besides, at the end of the day, Yoda ran, saying 'failed I have' not Sidious. And moreover, Yoda didn't come back for a rematch in 23 years either.

Neither of those things are points against Palpatine.

Wonderful negative argument. You've still yet to show how those 3 are going to blitz him.. I'll wait but based on your two previous posts, I won't hold my breath.

Like your brilliant argument in using Vitiate gathering power as an actual showing of speed? I'll wait for you to provide any showings of Vitiate showing any reactive showings that surpass Luke, Amped Mace, or DE Luke. But I wont hold my breath, but keep using an incompatible example 👆

He LET himself get shot on purpose

And there we have it folks, lol.

Neither of those things are points against Palpatine.

Then neither does Vitiate running into a lightsaber.

Originally posted by carthage
Like your brilliant argument in using Vitiate gathering power as an [b]actual showing of speed? I'll wait for you to provide any showings of Vitiate showing any reactive showings that surpass Luke, Amped Mace, or DE Luke. But I wont hold my breath, but keep using an incompatible example 👆 [/B]

Sorry, I'm still stuck on your negative logic. Prove Vitiate WOULDN'T defeat those 3 characters. 😂