Originally posted by AncientPower
In the second round he repeatedly gave her recovery and let her batman him to death, when he actually attempted to subdue her she was helpless.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Jaina killed a disinterested Caedus consumed with the thought his daughter Allana is about to die. Yet more proof you haven't actually read the books.If you knew anything about Jaina Solo you would know she has killed extremely well-trained Sith via speedblitz on Dromund Kaas. Not to mention killed a High Lord with pinnioned legs via blinding speed.
Jaina is one of the most overly trained Jedi combatants in the mythos, she is the Sword of the Jedi. Hyped to a point where she has been compared favorably to Luke Skywalker in Fate of the Jedi as a swordsman. She has the highest tier Mandalorian training combined with sword skills referred to as 'ruthless' by Caedus himself.
Kyle Katarn had four allies whom all have more feats than three quarters of your team does.
None of your TOR team has speed feats that even compare to Jaina Solo, nevermind her far more skilled and powerful brother.
Calm down. I know you really want Caedus to be able to stomp this team for some reason but getting aggressive makes Solaire hollow.
Others have responded to this. I don't care about it that much other than in how exactly you think it establishes Solo's speed.
How "extremely well-trained" were these Sith exactly? Wheres your proof for their caliber? Because Zallow was blitzing the finest Sith Warriors in Vitiate's Empire which was was overall superior to the Lost Tribe Losers. And the HoT blitzed 2 Sith who'd just defeated a Jedi High Council member, not to mentioned blitzed 2 Sith who'd ambushed her. Furthermore, Jaina performed that feat after she'd fought Caedus. 3 years was it? So that's a unreliable form of evidence for Jacen.
Again, that statement was made after her fights with Caedus and her Mando training wasn't in swordsmanship or force speed, so it's not exactly relevant for establishing Jacen.
Oh come on, obviously Seha doesn't count. She didn't engage Jacen, and no ****ing way does she have more feats than Darach, Braga or Zallow. None of the others do either. Unless you want to prove up, bro. 🙄
Actually at least 2 of them do, and the other two are extremely powerful Jedi who gave very impressive fights to very impressive opponents. Whereas the fodder on Katarn's team have jack shit and still kept up. Suggesting that random Jedi Knights match up with Zallow, Braga and Darach, or in fact actually exceed them, is something you'll have to prove before it ceases to seem ridiculous.
Originally posted by Trocity
Laughable ease, eh? So how would Vitiate do against them?(This should be good)
If this is (prime) HoT then the Strike Team might present significant challenge to Emperor by virtue of HoT's efforts. The other 3 Jedi don't stand a chance against Emperor's powers and are likely to be non-factor for him. Emperor will likely win in a good fight holistically.
Originally posted by carthage
Caedus in text was casually batting away their strikes, knew he could easily beat them, and even fought threee of them at once in spite of being injured:
Still, Caedus failed to blitz a single individual of the Strike Team.
Originally posted by carthage
Katarn himself is above anyone on the TOR team, and he dispatched him within a series of moments and TKED him. He won't have a problem ragdolling or killing fodder like Braga or easily taking Zallow or Darach at once.
Katarn did well until Caedus pulled down a nearby speeder on the Jedi. The speeder hit Katarn and send him flying towards Caedus, Katarn ended-up impaled in this manner.
Braga, Zallow and Darach are now fodder? (No pun intended but you need to get your senses evaluated by doctors)
Originally posted by carthage
Dodging blaster bolts while injured, fighting faster than Ben Skywalker who (can dodge blaster bolts, lightning, and leave trails of light with his lightsaber) could perceive, forming curtains and fans with his lightsaber simultaneously, moving his blade fast enough to illuminate a corner of the Anakin solo, moving his blade fast enough to form a column of light, as well as contend with Luke while injured. None of them have any showings comparable.
Originally posted by carthage
No one on the team is superior to Kyle or Saba in dueling skill 😬
This TOR wank is honestly as bad as the Bane trolling if not worse.
If the character is from the TOR era and has generic 'powerful' hype then he/she is automatically a match for Count Dooku.
If he/she is a Dark Council member with one appearance then he/she can defeat Darth Vader because 'the reconstituted Sith Empire was perfect for the ascension of the strongest'.
Darth Malgus is strong enough to fight Luke Skywalker because a heavily amped Lord Nyax gave him problems, *insert more lowballing attempts with character's weakest showing here*.
*Insert fallacious asinine logic based on overly used generic Encyclopedia hype here*
Vitiate is much stronger than Darth Caedus? completely correct, we all know Vitiate is a god-like mega being stronger than Darth Sidious and on the level of the Ones as the diety of the Dark Side.
This enormous bias is nauseating and completely destroys any attempts at taking SWTOR characters seriously.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't see how suggesting that 4 of the best TOR Jedi can give Caedus a good fight and not get stomped constitutes as wank.I mean, even Legend didn't say much that was crazy other than Vitiate >>>>>> Caedus but you know how Legend swings so that's no big deal.
That's another double standard, though. You condone Legend's TOR wank but throw a fit at carthage's Banehate?
Legend gonna Legend, man. S'no big deal.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
That's another double standard, though. You condone Legend's TOR wank but throw a fit at carthage's Banehate?
No it isn't. Legend is entitled to his own opinions and no one has the right to condone him believing such things. Carthage actively attacks and mocks peoples opinions and seeks to turn others against them. I have no issue with him believing Bane is weak (unless I'm actually trying to disprove his arguments of course) but I do have an issue with him aggressively pushing that opinion and trying to squash those of other's. Not even close to the same thing.
Actually LeGenD has been doing exactly that since 2012, not just here but on Wookieepedia and SWTOR as well. He vandalized repeatedly the Palpatine page and belittled some of the most veteran members of that site for stopping him, they had to lock the page hard to stop his activities.
Since then he has routinely accused the Wookieepedia staff of being biased and claimed that they don't allow additions to the site. Being a 2006 vet myself I can't tell you how imbecilic that is, the site isn't perfect but we do try.
LeGenD is far from innocent so stop trying to defend him.
I have been a huge fan of the Old Sith Wars era since Tales of the Jedi first released, I am a devoted KotOR/KOTOR2 fan and a massive TOR fan on-top of that.
So imagine if you will how endlessly infuriating it must be to be labelled a sock and have very well sourced and constructed posts dismissed out of hand ALL because LeGenD has single-handedly destroyed any chance of that era being taken seriously.
In his futile, nihilistic attempts to raise TOR he has completely blown it out of the water. The way he goes about all his debates is beyond ridiculous.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No it isn't. Legend is entitled to his own opinions and no one has the right to condone him believing such things. Carthage actively attacks and mocks peoples opinions and seeks to turn others against them. I have no issue with him believing Bane is weak (unless I'm actually trying to disprove his arguments of course) but I do have an issue with him aggressively pushing that opinion and trying to squash those of other's. Not even close to the same thing.
Leg. does indeed mock and attack other people's opinions and that's a fact. Whether or not he does it to the same degree as cart. is open to debate. But to insinuate that one is a saint when compared with the other is to openly lie.
Originally posted by Nephthys
If he has been uncivil, it's no more than any other member, including you and myself.
So making excuses for him is kinda silly. He has been uncivil, no it hasn't always been in response to aggression from others, and you've read enough of his posts that I know you're aware of it. But because his views align with yours than do carthage's, you're willing to turn a blind eye to it.
I mean, I'm willing to post examples of LeGenD's aggression or call for other users to remark on it. But it's just going to derail the thread, upset him, and make you look silly for pretending it doesn't exist.
I wonder if I could find an example of you calling him out on it. mmm
Bet I could. excellent
That would be funny. haermm
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He's more about attacking characters, tbh. He very rarely goes after posters directly. This all drowned out by the tidal waves of hype he has on his clipboard, of course.
Nah, I've seen plenty of examples of him getting pretty rude with posters in a debate for absolutely zero reason.