Who can stop 2 DE Sidiouses?

Started by Kallig6 pages
Originally posted by ILS
The same Kyp who could manipulate pseudo-black holes, yeah.

So could Jaina, Jacen, and even Mara.

His fight with the Vong Slayer well late into the story of Vong War and couldn't beat a single one a duel, the same one who had been exposed and infected by the Alpha-Red virus.

That's the first I've heard of them manipulating the micro black holes or the Vong who wrecked Kyp also being hindered by a virus.

The Slayer was hindered but the people he mentioned never manipulated the dovin basals.

Jacen and Jaina both could, including using the shadow bombs to TK unactivated proton torpedoes into Vong warships.

Originally posted by Trocity
The Slayer was hindered but the people he mentioned never manipulated the dovin basals.
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Originally posted by ILS
That's the first I've heard of them manipulating the micro black holes or the Vong who wrecked Kyp also being hindered by a virus.

Actually curious about these black hole feats for anyone in general

Were these real black holes, or pseudo black holes (think Blackbeard from One Piece for an extreme example of fake singularity)?

There were micro-singularities created artificially, they aren't remotely close to real black holes. The best feat was Luke meditating and inverting a larger then standard one on one of the Yuuzhan Vong's war beasts to cause it destroy large segments of a massive Reptoid/Vong army I think on Dantooine.

The first time that Luke used and concentrated Force energy this way nearly burned him out.

The best rate of quantifying this feats is how the larger and greater analog a warship's dovin basal's are, the more powerful they are. The ones on a frigate would be more impressive then the one's on fighters or corvettes. I think one of Luke's better TK feats was throwing a shadow bomb with his telekinesis so powerfully it was hitting a respectable "fraction" of the speed of light into a large Vong warship.

"We need more research to be certain, but it appears that they have creatures called dovin basals that are part of the fighter itself. They manipulate gravity, which is how they were able to soak off your shots and rip down your shields. We think that boosting the sphere of the inertial compensator can actually prevent shields being taken down. I also think that cycling more, lower-power shots through the lasers will force the skip to expend a lot of energy creating those black-hole shields. As long as it's worried about catching shots, its maneuvering ability is degraded. These strategies are hypothetical, however, and can really only be tested in combat."

All I know about them is what I got from Kyp's respect thread on comic vine. The same user who posted his thread also posted ones for Jaina and Mara, so I find it kind of hard to believe that he managed to include Kyp manipulating the basal's but not them.

To be fair, he didn't even get Kyp's, though. Someone in the comments gave it to him.

****ers making these threads are far from infallible

Kallig isn't either, but either he remembered something the other dude didn't notice or he misremembered

Wouldn't say it matters much if they're not genuine singularities though

Teams 2 and 3 will win without any problems.
Teams 1 and 4 win with very narrow victories.
Team 5 could go either way.
Boss Curb stomps

Originally posted by zEniX
Teams 2 and 3 will win without any problems.

Team 3 has Bane and Zannah. Fail.

Clear 1 and 2.
Might lose 3 because of Tenebrous and Plagueis, although they are featless.
Definitely lose 4 and 5.
Win the boss, unless Abeloth turns Ahsoka into second Abeloth.

Sidious couldn't take Plagueis in a fair fight alone and Tenebrous is only slightly below him. Also I'm not sure how or why people think Bane and Zannah are so under powered.

TPM Sidious couldn't take Plagueis in single combat. He's gotten significantly stronger then his former master since then. By the time of Dark Empire, he can kill Plaguies and Tenebrous by himself.

I don't count dark empire as cannon as the books basically don't sooooo....

Also comic feats pretty much have to get nerf'd to cross over do to sensationalism even if you want to include it.

Yeah, you're going to have a big problem if you think that and try to compare books vs. comic feats in battle threads.

Originally posted by zEniX
I don't count dark empire as cannon as the books basically don't sooooo....

Actually, I recall numerous novelizations, sourcebooks, and encyclopedias referencing Dark Empire.

I'm fine with problems. More to the point though there is a lot of book evidence about Sidious's power level from comparisons ect. that doesn't even remotely match what was done in the comics. Which actually goes for a bunch of characters. Hence my opinion.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Actually, I recall numerous novelizations, sourcebooks, and encyclopedias referencing Dark Empire.

The novels only mention the emperor reborn and Luke falling to the dark side. The power feats from everyone are never mentioned or alluded to because they don't fit.