Clubber Lane runs the gauntlet

Started by Psychotron26 pages
Originally posted by Kotor3
Pure boxing. If it was a street fight then I would put Rocky against Iceman.

Drago would crush him in pure boxing, his punching power and size advantage is too much.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Here is my statement "Anyone who goes head to head with Lane loses unless you are Ivan Drago."

Obviously, you having a hard time comprehending what that sentence means. Rocky did not go head to head or punch for punch with Lang. Rocky strategize and let Lang punch himself out. Even Apollo told Rocky to stick and move and not to go toe to toe with Lang.

So the only thing you prove is you inability to comprehend statements.

Oh please, Rocky could beat Lang if he went "head to head" as you put it, guessing you missed Rocky 4 where Rocky had the strength to KO Drago. You were wrong, Rocky beat Lang, Rocky in the end was just letting Lang punch him and it did nothing to him, he was telling Lang to just punch him, then Rocky KOed your boy Lang.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Oh please, Rocky could beat Lang if he went "head to head" as you put it, guessing you missed Rocky 4 where Rocky had the strength to KO Drago. You were wrong, Rocky beat Lang, Rocky in the end was just letting Lang punch him and it did nothing to him, he was telling Lang to just punch him, then Rocky KOed your boy Lang.

Rocky was blocking and dodging. I think he means blow for blow, and Rocky could not do that with Lang

Neither guy from Undefeated would beat Lang in a pure boxing match. That's literally absurd to even imply that.

Originally posted by juggerman
Rocky was blocking and dodging. I think he means blow for blow, and Rocky could not do that with Lang

If he'd said that then yes blow for blow Rocky wouldn't stand a chance, unless he'd done the training routine he'd done in Rocky 4, that Rocky would take him down cuz the blows he took from Drago were far more powerful that what Lang could dish out and Rocky took punishment in his match with Drago

Ummm that's what meeting him head on meant.. Toe to toe.. he did clarify with that statement.

Originally posted by juggerman
Rocky was blocking and dodging. I think he means blow for blow, and Rocky could not do that with Lang

This again? Lang connected a shit ton of times and couldn't KO Rocky. Drago is >> Lang by feats.

Ummmm you couldn't be more wrong... Lang look like he physically hurt Rocky more than Drago... He Knockdown Rocky 2 times in the rematch and rocky seemed really hurt and struggled to get up. That's not even getting into the decisive KO in the first fight. Drago had Rocky down more but the fight was also A LOT longer and Rocky didn't seem as hurt when he was down. In fact, he pop right back up numerous times. Now, IMO the clear presentation of the movie was supposed to be that Drago was a machine and the hardest puncher we've seen... but based on feats in the respective fights.. I certainly wouldn't say Drago hit rocky harder... in fact I'd say the opposite.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummm that's what meeting him head on meant.. Toe to toe.. he did clarify with that statement.

No he didn't, he said head to head, I've heard head to head used for when two people are going to face each other in a match, not when two guys are just gonna trade blows 😬

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummmm you couldn't be more wrong... Lang look like he physically hurt Rocky more than Drago... He Knockdown Rocky 2 times in the rematch and rocky seemed really hurt and struggled to get up. That's not even getting into the decisive KO in the first fight. Drago had Rocky down more but the fight was also A LOT longer and Rocky didn't seem as hurt when he was down. In fact, he pop right back up numerous times. Now, IMO the clear presentation of the movie was supposed to be that Drago was a machine and the hardest puncher we've seen... but based on feats in the respective fights.. I certainly wouldn't say Drago hit rocky harder... in fact I'd say the opposite.

Drago was tossing Rocky around and knocked him down more than once, so that doesn't prove anything. There was a point in the match where Lang scored 20+ direct hits on Rocky's head and failed to knock him out, meanwhile Drago has confirmed superhuman punches and KILLED Apollo in 2 rounds. Finally, Drago has far greater stamina than Clubber, who was out of gas after 3 rounds. It should also be noted that Rocky was physically at his peak in Rocky IV.

Originally posted by steverules_2
No he didn't, he said head to head, I've heard head to head used for when two people are going to face each other in a match, not when two guys are just gonna trade blows 😬

I actually clarified for you and still you are denying what I said. Here is my previous post: "Obviously, you having a hard time comprehending what that sentence means. Rocky did not go head to head or punch for punch with Lang. Rokcy strategize and let Lang punch himself out. Even Apollo told Rocky to stick and move and not to go toe to toe with Lang."

Have you missed Rocky 4? If Lang faced that Rocky he'd lose and badly, Rocky took a beating and still took Drago down, Rocky took quite a beating in 3 as well and shook it off, he wore Lang down sure but the fact is he was just letting Lang punch him and it did nothing

Originally posted by steverules_2
...but the fact is he was just letting Lang punch him and it did nothing

Nope

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope

Yup

Second fight he told Lang come on hit me and he was getting punched and getting back up and shrugging it off like nothing, saying nope isn't an argument. First fight with Lang yes he lost, second fight Langs punches were doing nothing to Rocky.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Yup

Second fight he told Lang come on hit me and he was getting punched and getting back up and shrugging it off like nothing, saying nope isn't an argument. First fight with Lang yes he lost, second fight Langs punches were doing nothing to Rocky.

Watch the fight. Rocky was baiting Lang in and then blocking. He was not taking Lang's hits intentionally.

Ergo "nope"

Yes Rocky had his hands up, but the punches were still connecting, having your hands up doesn't negate a punches force.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Drago was tossing Rocky around and knocked him down more than once, so that doesn't prove anything. There was a point in the match where Lang scored 20+ direct hits on Rocky's head and failed to knock him out, meanwhile Drago has confirmed superhuman punches and KILLED Apollo in 2 rounds. Finally, Drago has far greater stamina than Clubber, who was out of gas after 3 rounds. It should also be noted that Rocky was physically at his peak in Rocky IV.

Nah it was never 20 blows and some of those were being blocked. I don't care about Stamina.. I never commented on it. I'm only talking about how their punches were dealt with my Rocky. You said Drago certainly hit Rocky harder... I simply disagreed which is back up by the movies. Rocky was more visibly hurt by Lang than he was by Drago. There is simply no way around that fact. As I said though, I agree that the director clear presentation was supposed to be that Drago was the hardest puncher we've seen... but based on actual fight against rocky it didn't come across that way.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes Rocky had his hands up, but the punches were still connecting, having your hands up doesn't negate a punches force.

You never been in a fight before have you? I mean to say something like this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anybody say. The whole point of blocking is it absolutely 100% negates a punches impact on you if you block it. There is literally no way it doesn't, ever.

Having you hands up is not the same as taking a full impact punch with your hands down, otherwise they would not call it blocking.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You never been in a fight before have you? I mean to say something like this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anybody say. The whole point of blocking is it absolutely 100% negates a punches impact on you if you block it. There is literally no way it doesn't, ever.

I actually have been in fights before and been trained in combat, holding your hands up like Rocky did does not in fact negate 100% of the force of a punch, the fact that you think it does only proves that it's you that have never been in a fight.