Clubber Lane runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
of course it does... Somebody commented that Lang hit Rocky with 20+ answered punches to the head. To which somebody else and I commented that he was blocking them not taking the full effects to his head. To which you say, Blocking punches doesn't negate a punches force. WTF? So then what exactly are you saying with your comment? Why were you interjecting such a moronic comment? Are you saying Rocky would've taken the same impact had he not been blocking? If not, why are commenting.. if you're saying blocking does lessen the impact that you are agreeing with us.. if that's the case then your comment makes no sense.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just saying that my comments contradict each other doesn't make it true, you should probably educate yourself in regards to what words actually mean.

Concession accepted

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nah it was never 20 blows and some of those were being blocked. I don't care about Stamina.. I never commented on it. I'm only talking about how their punches were dealt with my Rocky. You said Drago certainly hit Rocky harder... I simply disagreed which is back up by the movies. Rocky was more visibly hurt by Lang than he was by Drago. There is simply no way around that fact. As I said though, I agree that the director clear presentation was supposed to be that Drago was the hardest puncher we've seen... but based on actual fight against rocky it didn't come across that way.

Sure, Rocky had his hands up but Clubber was landing a lot of body shots which are far more painful than face hits. The fact that fight choreography was more realistic here doesn't prove he hit Rocky harder, he never rocked Rocky like Drago did, and he faced an inferior Rocky.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Sure, Rocky had his hands up but Clubber was landing a lot of body shots which are far more painful than face hits. The fact that fight choreography was more realistic here doesn't prove he hit Rocky harder, he never rocked Rocky like Drago did, and he faced an inferior Rocky.

You'll have to forgive him, he thinks holding your hands up makes your opponent's punches ineffective.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You'll have to forgive him, he thinks holding your hands up makes your opponent's punches ineffective.

A common misconception, people just don't how devastating a shot that hits your liver is.

You know, sometimes I wonder if some people have seen a secret alternate version of a movie (or movies) that the rest of us have seen.

Anyone who thinks Clubber Lang was hitting harder than Drago obviously didn't watch the movies very closely. Seriously, the punching power between the two was a HUGE gap in Drago's favor. Don't see how anyone could think otherwise. The only advantages Lang would've had over Drago would've been speed and agility. Clubber's punches probably wouldn't have had much of an effect on Drago at all and Drago likely would've killed Lang like he did Apollo though it would've taken longer. One shot would all Drago would need to get in to seriously hurt him. Lang's faster but eventually Drago would connect then the rest of the fight would go downhill for Lang. Post-training Rocky from Rocky 4 would beat Lang decisively long before 15 rounds were up.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I saw all the movies and Rocky never traded punch for punch with anyone. Apollo clearly lost from being tired from beating Rocky through round. Actually, Rocky won every fight from 2 through 4 by basically letting the opponent punch himself out.

In four Rocky was willing to die his determination was different from any other movie.

No I don't agree that the Rocky in 4 would destroy Clubber Lang. If he traded punch for punch with Lang he would lost.

The only thing Rocky has over any of his opponents is durability.

Don't gimme that bull shit. You said the only one Lang can't go head to head with Ivan Drago, your words. Rocky went head to head with Drago and beat him, KOed him. If Rocky had done the training he'd done in Rocky 4 in no.3 then Lang wouldn't have been able to take the power behind Rocky's punches. You've contradicted yourself. Rocky took down a guy who's punches were fuelled by steroids.

I'm even nice enough to post the fight for your:
YouTube video

Originally posted by Star428
You know, sometimes I wonder if some people have seen a secret alternate version of a movie (or movies) that the rest of us have seen.

Anyone who thinks Clubber Lang was hitting harder than Drago obviously didn't watch the movies very closely. Seriously, the punching power between the two was a HUGE gap in Drago's favor. Don't see how anyone could think otherwise. The only advantages Lang would've had over Drago would've been speed and agility. Clubber's punches probably wouldn't have had much of an effect on Drago at all and Drago likely would've killed Lang like he did Apollo though it would've taken longer. One shot would all Drago would need to get in to seriously hurt him. Lang's faster but eventually Drago would connect then the rest of the fight would go downhill for Lang. Post-training Rocky from Rocky 4 would beat Lang decisively long before 15 rounds were up.

Well he already beat him in a few rounds in Rocky III, Rocky from part IV would annihilate Lang.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Sure, Rocky had his hands up but Clubber was landing a lot of body shots which are far more painful than face hits. The fact that fight choreography was more realistic here doesn't prove he hit Rocky harder, he never rocked Rocky like Drago did, and he faced an inferior Rocky.

Rocky trained like hell for his fight with Lang and he was younger than he was with his fight with Drago in which he was not even an active fighter at the time. So, I disagree that Rocky IV was his prime. The only difference is in Rocky IV he was willing to die and had the most determination to win than any other movie since he was the reason Apollo die.

Rocky taking the amount of hits while blocking shows his conditioning of his body because Lang was putting all his force into those blows.

Besides Rocky first fight with Apollo, Lang is the only fighter he was scared of due to the power of his hits.

Also, take a look at the fight between Ali and Foreman. Rocky fight with Lang is straight from this fight. After two rounds of tiring himself out Ali decided to block for most of the match. Like Rocky he did not just block the hits he dodge many of them. So Rocky did not just stand still in round three taking Lang hits.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Don't gimme that bull shit. You said the only one Lang can't go head to head with Ivan Drago, your words. Rocky went head to head with Drago and beat him, KOed him. If Rocky had done the training he'd done in Rocky 4 in no.3 then Lang wouldn't have been able to take the power behind Rocky's punches. You've contradicted yourself. Rocky took down a guy who's punches were fuelled by steroids.

I'm even nice enough to post the fight for your:
YouTube video

Originally posted by Kotor3
I do not know if Lang hits harder than Drago but he makes a good point that Lang hits rock Rocky more than any other opponent he face. That is a fact.

Rocky trained like hell for his fight with Lang and he was younger than he was with his fight with Drago in which he was not even an active fighter at the time. So, I disagree that Rocky IV was his prime. The only difference is in Rocky IV he was willing to die and had the most determination to win than any other movie since he was the reason Apollo die.

Rocky taking the amount of hits while blocking shows his conditioning of his body because Lang was putting all his force into those blows.

Besides Rocky first fight with Apollo, Lang is the only fighter he was scared of due to the power of his hits.

Also, take a look at the fight between Ali and Foreman. Rocky fight with Lang is straight from this fight. After two rounds of tiring himself out Ali decided to block for most of the match. Like Rocky he did not just block the hits he dodge many of them. So Rocky did not just stand still in round three taking Lang hits.

Yeah, and Rocky took his hits just fine.

Rocky IV picks up pretty much right after the end of Rocky III, so Rocky wasn't much older. The only difference is that he trains his body to it's peak (running up a motherf*cking mountain vs. running up some stairs), and is more determined that ever. That Rocky would level Lang.

Sure, and he was even tougher when facing Drago.

I wouldn't say he was scared, he just chose a different strategy this time due to Apollo's training.

I know which match it's based on, but if you look at the real thing you'll notice that it's very different. There were parts in the final fight where Rocky was taking 5-6 direct shots to the face and not slowing down, Ali would have been on a stretcher if he gave that many free shots to Foreman.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, and Rocky took his hits just fine.

Nope

Originally posted by Kotor3
LoL. I have not contradicted myselt at all. I am not suprise though your reading comprehension is entertianing at most.

This coming from a guy who says "myselt", "entertianing" and calls Clubber Lang Clubber Lane...how about you learn to spell before you tell me about my reading skills 😉

Originally posted by Psychotron
A common misconception, people just don't how devastating a shot that hits your liver is.

You'll have to forgive Silent.. HE think blocking punch doesn't lessen the impact at all. It's a wonder anybody blocks being that it does nothing. Professionals who have trained most of their life in the sport are wrong.. as are their trainers and Silent is right LMAO

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope

Yep, Lang failed to KO Rocky even though he had a bunch of free shots, many of which were either body shots or face shots.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You'll have to forgive Silent.. HE think blocking punch doesn't lessen the impact at all. It's a wonder anybody blocks being that it does nothing. Professionals who have trained most of their life in the sport are wrong.. as are their trainers and Silent is right LMAO

We're talking about body shots here.

he wasn't... He thinks you can hurt somebody just the same if a punch is blocked or it's not. That's silent for you, zero combat experience. I literally spit out my water on my keyboard when I saw him claim he was a seal LMAO

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yep, Lang failed to KO Rocky even though he had a bunch of free shots, many of which were either body shots or face shots.

We're talking about body shots here.

Sorry Bud, as you admit Rocky seemed more hurt by Lang. We don't just discount that fact.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yep, Lang failed to KO Rocky even though he had a bunch of free shots, many of which were either body shots or face shots.

But his "free shots" did more to Rocky than Drago's "free shots".

And Lang hit Rocky with a grand total of 3 clearly unblocked body shots and 2 more that were unclear as to if they were blocked by his arm or not, so at most 5. The other 3 were clearly blocked by his arm so he did not receive the full impact of those hits. All of them were in the final round when Lang was already gassed as well. So he got hit with a grand total of 8 body shots with at least 3 being blocked by an exhausted Lang.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, and Rocky took his hits just fine.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Rocky IV picks up pretty much right after the end of Rocky III, so Rocky wasn't much older. The only difference is that he trains his body to it's peak (running up a motherf*cking mountain vs. running up some stairs), and is more determined that ever. That Rocky would level Lang.

Here is some information:
It seems that many fans assume that when Rocky arrives at his house at the start of the film, he is returning from the sparring session with Apollo Creed (Carl Weathers) which ended Rocky III, and therefore, no time passes between Rocky III and Rocky IV. However, this cannot be so. Early on in the film, Rocky mentions to Adrian (Talia Shire) that it is nearly their ninth anniversary. They got married early in Rocky II, which was set between January 1, 1976 and November 25, 1976. As such, their 9-year anniversary would occur in early-1985. This places the events in Rocky IV roughly five years after the end of Rocky III (which was set in 1979-1980), and approximately 10 years after the original Rocky. Furthermore, we know that Rocky and Adrian were married in early-1976 and we know that the match with Drago takes place on Christmas Day. As such, the time frame of the film is from early-1985 to December 25, 1985.

Rocky (1976): November 25, 1975 - January 1, 1976

Rocky II (1979): January 1, 1976 - November 25, 1976

Rocky III (1982): early-1979 - early-1980

We know that Rocky was 30 in Rocky and 34 in Rocky III, placing his date of birth sometime in 1945. If we accept that Rocky IV takes place in 1985, it means he is roughly 40 years old.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I wouldn't say he was scared, he just chose a different strategy this time due to Apollo's training.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I know which match it's based on, but if you look at the real thing you'll notice that it's very different. There were parts in the final fight where Rocky was taking 5-6 direct shots to the face and not slowing down, Ali would have been on a stretcher if he gave that many free shots to Foreman.