Originally posted by steverules_2
This coming from a guy who says "myselt", "entertianing" and calls Clubber Lang Clubber Lane...how about you learn to spell before you tell me about my reading skills 😉
Oh, and I am working so, my comments are rushed at times. But please point out any spelling mistakes I may make, its appreciated.
Originally posted by Kotor3
We saw different movies. He did take them. That I would agree with.I never thought that so, I look up this topic on the internet. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089927/faq
Here is some information:
It seems that many fans assume that when Rocky arrives at his house at the start of the film, he is returning from the sparring session with Apollo Creed (Carl Weathers) which ended Rocky III, and therefore, no time passes between Rocky III and Rocky IV. However, this cannot be so. Early on in the film, Rocky mentions to Adrian (Talia Shire) that it is nearly their ninth anniversary. They got married early in Rocky II, which was set between January 1, 1976 and November 25, 1976. As such, their 9-year anniversary would occur in early-1985. This places the events in Rocky IV roughly five years after the end of Rocky III (which was set in 1979-1980), and approximately 10 years after the original Rocky. Furthermore, we know that Rocky and Adrian were married in early-1976 and we know that the match with Drago takes place on Christmas Day. As such, the time frame of the film is from early-1985 to December 25, 1985.Rocky (1976): November 25, 1975 - January 1, 1976
Rocky II (1979): January 1, 1976 - November 25, 1976
Rocky III (1982): early-1979 - early-1980
We know that Rocky was 30 in Rocky and 34 in Rocky III, placing his date of birth sometime in 1945. If we accept that Rocky IV takes place in 1985, it means he is roughly 40 years old.
Really? He admitted to his wife that he was scared. That was the topic of the movie. He was scared of Lang.
Yes it’s a movie, I got that. That only happen to Rocky in the second round. He actually took the least amount of hits to the face when facing Lang than any other opponent he faced.
Assuming Rocky and Sly are the same age, Rocky is 39 in Rocky IV. That's not that old, Vladimir Klitchko is 38 and is still holding 4 of the 5 world heavyweight championship belts, and is about to fight for the 5th in April. Also, if there is a 5 year gap between Rocky III and IV that means Rocky has been successfully defending his title for the past 5 years, giving him time to improve further. This is on top of the insane training he does in Rocky IV before fighting Drago.
Didn't stop him from taunting him and beating his. Besides, the circumstances are different, Rocky was out for blood in Rocky IV, it was personal.
Maybe, but he did take them. At no point in the match did it seem like Rocky was about to lose.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sorry Bud, as you admit Rocky seemed more hurt by Lang. We don't just discount that fact.
Originally posted by juggerman
But his "free shots" did more to Rocky than Drago's "free shots".And Lang hit Rocky with a grand total of 3 clearly unblocked body shots and 2 more that were unclear as to if they were blocked by his arm or not, so at most 5. The other 3 were clearly blocked by his arm so he did not receive the full impact of those hits. All of them were in the final round when Lang was already gassed as well. So he got hit with a grand total of 8 body shots with at least 3 being blocked by an exhausted Lang.
You guys are nuts, Lang gave Rocky a few bruises, Drago gave Rocky brain damage. He wasn't even allowed to fight anymore after Drago.
Originally posted by Kotor3
I give you that, you can at least spell. It's a start. Now lets work on the reading comprehension and you will be ready to converse with me again.Oh, and I am working so, my comments are rushed at times. But please point out any spelling mistakes I may make, its appreciated.
So you're on here when you're meant to be working? Well that's just fantastic. It's nice that you think I need work on reading when you failed to understand "Does Rocky lose? No he doesn't". I don't see how you can fail to understand plain English yet here you are insulting my reading. Since you seem to have trouble understanding English perhaps you understand sign language?
Of course he wasn't the only one... The director showed us VARIES fights of his throughout his career when discussing his brain damage. It was not only caused by Drago. Simple. The reality is, Lang hurt Rocky more as you admit. It's really that simple. We can call it the director making it more realistic... we can call it any number of things... but it's what happened.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Assuming Rocky and Sly are the same age, Rocky is 39 in Rocky IV. That's not that old, Vladimir Klitchko is 38 and is still holding 4 of the 5 world heavyweight championship belts, and is about to fight for the 5th in April. Also, if there is a 5 year gap between Rocky III and IV that means Rocky has been successfully defending his title for the past 5 years, giving him time to improve further. This is on top of the insane training he does in Rocky IV before fighting Drago.
Ok, let me put this in perspective, what is Drago record and feats?
Drago is an amateur boxing champion. His feats:
• Defeated and killed in not the first but second round a way past his prime Apollo who did not even trained as if he was fighting a real match. (Note – Drago went all out on Apollo and was not able to knock him out in the first round. Please tell me this version of Apollo would have made it pass the 1st round against Lang.)
• Lost to an out of prime Rocky who was not even an active fighter when the match was made but was retired for a few years.
Drago never defeated Rocky once unlike Lang or Apollo. Not an impressive resume if you ask me.
Also, Rocky had to trained in a different style of fighting that upgraded his agility and accuracy greatly in order to defeat Lang. Why, because as stated many times during the movie, Rocky could not go toe to toe or head to head with Lang even if he was trained and was in top shape.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Didn't stop him from taunting him and beating his. Besides, the circumstances are different, Rocky was out for blood in Rocky IV, it was personal.
Maybe, but he did take them. At no point in the match did it seem like Rocky was about to lose.
Originally posted by Psychotron
At no point in the match did it seem like Rocky was about to lose.
Missed this earlier. That is untrue. In fact, Rocky was in such bad shape his wife called out to have the fight stopped. Not something that happened in his other fights that I recall but please correct me if I'm wrong. We were clearly being shown he was in a bad way
Originally posted by steverules_2I was having fun with you but now it seems that you are taking this a little too personal.
So you're on here when you're meant to be working? Well that's just fantastic. It's nice that you think I need work on reading when you failed to understand "Does Rocky lose? No he doesn't". I don't see how you can fail to understand plain English yet here you are insulting my reading. Since you seem to have trouble understanding English perhaps you understand sign language?
It is not my problem that you could not understand the context in which I used "head to head", even though I and others explain it to you.
Also why are you posting videos of Rocky IV. Rocky already fought Lang in three. He did not go head to head (punch for punch) with Lang.
Your concession is accepted.
Originally posted by Kotor3
I was having fun with you but now it seems that you are taking this a little too personal.It is not my problem that you could not understand the context in which I used "head to head", even though I and others explain it to you.
Also why are you posting videos of Rocky IV. Rocky already fought Lang in three. He did not go head to head (punch for punch) with Lang.
[B]Your concession is accepted.
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Personal? No I find this to be quite humorous, you try to insult my reading whilst you couldn't understand a simple statement earlier that was written in English whilst making numerous spelling mistakes.
You're the one who decided to add Drago to this conversation not me. You said Drago could beat Lang head to head yet you say Rocky from the 4th film couldn't even though he beat Drago HEAD TO HEAD. Before you could've easily said 'Why are you mentioning Rocky from the 4th film?' yet you didn't after I proved you wrong that Rocky could beat Lang head to head had he had the training from the 4th film.
I took 'head to head' out of context and thought it meant that the two would just have a fight. All this cuz I said Rocky beat Lang in the 3rd film and you got all hormonal about it.
YOUR concession is accepted.
😉
Originally posted by steverules_2
Personal? No I find this to be quite humorous, you try to insult my reading whilst you couldn't understand a simple statement earlier that was written in English whilst making numerous spelling mistakes.You're the one who decided to add Drago to this conversation not me. You said Drago could beat Lang head to head yet you say Rocky from the 4th film couldn't even though he beat Drago HEAD TO HEAD. Before you could've easily said 'Why are you mentioning Rocky from the 4th film?' yet you didn't after I proved you wrong that Rocky could beat Lang head to head had he had the training from the 4th film.
I took 'head to head' out of context and thought it meant that the two would just have a fight. All this cuz I said Rocky beat Lang in the 3rd film and you got all hormonal about it.
[b]YOUR concession is accepted.
😉 [/B]