Lizard vs Xenomorph queen.

Originally posted by Psychotron
They have dodged lasers, though.

Not the point. And acid blood would f*ck up Spider-man.

I haven't missed your point, I just don't think he can web them up so easily.

Anyway, I'm not saying Spider-man can't beat an Alien, just that he's not gonna manhandle them.

Lasers that moved visably slower than bullets

Only if he got close enought and allowed himself to get sprayed. If he can dodge bullets, he can dodge acid spray. But not the Lizard wouldn't need to dodge it.

If he can web up Lizard, not reason he couldn't do the same to Xenos

Oh but he would

If SM knew thr abilities of xenos I think he could take out the queen, depending on the environment. For example, in the desert he'd likely be toast. In any other place where he can utilize his maneuverability he'd win after awhile. But, this is about Lizard. Lizard can afford to be tagged by the xeno. Spidey probably can't.

Originally posted by juggerman
Lasers that moved visably slower than bullets

Only if he got close enought and allowed himself to get sprayed. If he can dodge bullets, he can dodge acid spray. But not the Lizard wouldn't need to dodge it.

If he can web up Lizard, not reason he couldn't do the same to Xenos

Oh but he would

Don't jump on that band waggon, it's dumb.

H2H is Spider-man's only way of taking out an Alien, and if he is that close an acid blast could catch him off guard. The Lizard would heal from it, but would get stunned for a moment giving the Queen enough time to shred him.

He did that once in the movie, and the Alien's claws could prevent it.

Tobey might, Garfield can't.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Don't jump on that band waggon, it's dumb.

H2H is Spider-man's only way of taking out an Alien, and if he is that close an acid blast could catch him off guard. The Lizard would heal from it, but would get stunned for a moment giving the Queen enough time to shred him.

He did that once in the movie, and the Alien's claws could prevent it.

Tobey might, Garfield can't.

Screen feats are key

Nope. He could immoblize them with webbing and swing them around slamming them into walls until they were mush. An acid splash would not catch him off guard in a CIS free setting. Lizard would heal from any and all damage done to him and proceed to bolo stomp the queen

And the Xeno survived molten metal once yet it's your go to feat. Spidey did it and it's a viable tactic.

Garfield stomps too.

Originally posted by juggerman
Screen feats are key

Nope. He could immoblize them with webbing and swing them around slamming them into walls until they were mush. An acid splash would not catch him off guard in a CIS free setting. Lizard would heal from any and all damage done to him and proceed to bolo stomp the queen

And the Xeno survived molten metal once yet it's your go to feat. Spidey did it and it's a viable tactic.

Garfield stomps too.

That's not a feat, it's a visual representation.

That's ridiculously OOC for Spider-man. And if a random bullet can catch him off guard then so can the acid blood.

Or, you know, the Lizard gets stunned by acid and the Queen impales him with her tail and rips him in half.

My point was that it's not a usual tactic for Spider-man.

Garfield is shit.

Originally posted by Psychotron
That's not a feat, it's a visual representation.

That's ridiculously OOC for Spider-man. And if a random bullet can catch him off guard then so can the acid blood.

Or, you know, the Lizard gets stunned by acid and the Queen impales him with her tail and rips him in half.

My point was that it's not a usual tactic for Spider-man.

Garfield is shit.

At most they can aim dodge.

If CIS is on I agree.

Why do you assume the acid will stun him?

But it's a viable one

Why do you hate on the Field?

Originally posted by juggerman
At most they can aim dodge.

If CIS is on I agree.

Why do you assume the acid will stun him?

But it's a viable one

Why do you hate on the Field?

It was more than that.

Isn't CIS on by default?

Why wouldn't it? He'll heal, but if it splashes on his face, for example, it would disable him for a bit.

I can't Spider-man crawling all over the Alien like he did the Lizard.

He was in the worst Spider-man movies, he's a dyel twink, and his Peter Parker is unlikeable.

Originally posted by Psychotron
It was more than that.

Isn't CIS on by default?

Why wouldn't it? He'll heal, but if it splashes on his face, for example, it would disable him for a bit.

I can't Spider-man crawling all over the Alien like he did the Lizard.

He was in the worst Spider-man movies, he's a dyel twink, and his Peter Parker is unlikeable.

Not really

I thought not but bullets are faster and harder to avoid anyway. He'd dodge acid

If.

Maybe not but he could still wrap it up

The first one wasn't so bad.

Originally posted by juggerman
Not really

I thought not but bullets are faster and harder to avoid anyway. He'd dodge acid

If.

Maybe not but he could still wrap it up

The first one wasn't so bad.

Yes, really. Stand in front of a gun and try to aim dodge some bullets.

Not when it's 2 feet from him and he doesn't know about it.

When.

It's not gonna be as easy as you make it sound, and Alien acid blood would eat away the webs.

It was a soulless cash-grab.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yes, really. Stand in front of a gun and try to aim dodge some bullets.

Not when it's 2 feet from him and he doesn't know about it.

When.

It's not gonna be as easy as you make it sound, and Alien acid blood would eat away the webs.

It was a soulless cash-grab.

Normal humans do it all the time. Doesn't make them bullet timers

He basically has precog. He'll "know about it"

Wishful thinking

He wouldn't even need to harm them. Just web them up and leave em. That's a win

It wasn't bad. Now part 2 was horrid

Originally posted by juggerman
Normal humans do it all the time. Doesn't make them bullet timers

He basically has precog. He'll "know about it"

Wishful thinking

He wouldn't even need to harm them. Just web them up and leave em. That's a win

It wasn't bad. Now part 2 was horrid

No, they don't. Not in the way that Alien dodged those lasers, anyway.

Like he "knew" when that cop shot him in the leg?

Why not? Several people have been sprayed in the face and that's when they fight at range, the Lizard likes to go H2H.

Alien blood eats away the webs, juggs.

Nah, the villain, Peter's parents, Uncle Ben's death, Peter himself were all awful. I liked that they used Gwen instead of that cnt MJ, though.

Lizard can easily punch a hole in the the Queen's face. At worst his hand will melt, but it'll regenerate, unlike the Queen's brain.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Lizard can easily punch a hole in the the Queen's face. At worst his hand will melt, but it'll regenerate, unlike the Queen's brain.

Yeah. Any damage the queen endures is final and debilitating. For Lizard it's a temporary setback.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No, they don't. Not in the way that Alien dodged those lasers, anyway.

Like he "knew" when that cop shot him in the leg?

Why not? Several people have been sprayed in the face and that's when they fight at range, the Lizard likes to go H2H.

Alien blood eats away the webs, juggs.

Nah, the villain, Peter's parents, Uncle Ben's death, Peter himself were all awful. I liked that they used Gwen instead of that cnt MJ, though.

Sure they do. Especially in film

CIS/PIS

Several people don't have the speed and reflexes afforded to Connors

Aliens would need to get cut to bleed Psych. If he webbed them up and left them to rot, how would the blood help?

Agree to disagree

Originally posted by juggerman
Sure they do. Especially in film

CIS/PIS

Several people don't have the speed and reflexes afforded to Connors

Aliens would need to get cut to bleed Psych. If he webbed them up and left them to rot, how would the blood help?

Agree to disagree

Sure, if they have some form of super speed.

Call it what you will, it happened, and it can happen again.

Not like he bothered to dodge, he relies on his hf too much.

Ah, but you forget Aliens can spit acid blood.

Sure, whatever.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Sure, if they have some form of super speed.

Call it what you will, it happened, and it can happen again.

Not like he bothered to dodge, he relies on his hf too much.

Ah, but you forget Aliens can spit acid blood.

Sure, whatever.

Nope

The acid blood doesn't move as fast as bullets so the point is moot.

He has the speed to dodge.

I don't think they can. In fact I'm sure they cannot. See Alien 3. A few Xenos are trapped in a cell and they kill one of their own to use the acid blood to escape. If they could spit it they would have

EDIT: They also attacked the Queen to free her in AVP

I recall a scene from one of the Alien films where a Xeno cut themself just to use their acid blood. I may be wrong though.

EDIT: Yeah, jugs referenced the scene

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope

The acid blood doesn't move as fast as bullets so the point is moot.

He has the speed to dodge.

I don't think they can. In fact I'm sure they cannot. See Alien 3. A few Xenos are trapped in a cell and they kill one of their own to use the acid blood to escape. If they could spit it they would have

EDIT: They also attacked the Queen to free her in AVP

Oh, come on. You really think a powerless human can dodge lasers/bullers/whatever?

It doesn't matter when it's right in his face.

Which he doesn't use. He, like Wolverine, prefers to just tank everything.

You're wrong about two things. First, that's Alien Resurrection, there's only one Alien in 3. And second, that scene does happen, but later an Alien spits acid blood at some of the protags.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Oh, come on. You really think a powerless human can dodge lasers/bullers/whatever?

It doesn't matter when it's right in his face.

Which he doesn't use. He, like Wolverine, prefers to just tank everything.

You're wrong about two things. First, that's Alien Resurrection, there's only one Alien in 3. And second, that scene does happen, but later an Alien spits acid blood at some of the protags.

If they aim dodge like the Xenos? Yes. Like Spiderman? Nope.

Oh but it does. He has both the precog to sense it coming and the speed/agility to dodge it.

And he would tank eveything the Queen did

Right it was Resurrection but the point remains. That one doing it isn't standard and I'd need to see the context of the event. Like maybe it was bleeding in it's mouth or something since they never do it before or after. They seem to contiually need to injure themselves to benefit from the blood

Originally posted by juggerman
If they aim dodge like the Xenos? Yes. Like Spiderman? Nope.

Oh but it does. He has both the precog to sense it coming and the speed/agility to dodge it.

And he would tank eveything the Queen did

Right it was Resurrection but the point remains. That one doing it isn't standard and I'd need to see the context of the event. Like maybe it was bleeding in it's mouth or something since they never do it before or after. They seem to contiually need to injure themselves to benefit from the blood

Oh, ok. Let's do this. I'll get a gun, and you aim dodge. Shouldn't be a problem for you.

Like he dodged that bullet?

He wouldn't tank getting ripped in half or a decap.

It wasn't injured, it was just an ability they had. AvP isn't really canon so the only other time this ability could have been used was in Resurrection again when they busted out of the cell. Maybe the Aliens just wanted more acid than they could spit? Who knows, the point is they can do it.